Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] raw read performance improvement

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On 06/28/2014 07:14 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
On 28/06/14 14:16, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:

On 06/28/2014 01:49 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
On 27/06/14 01:40, Srinivas Pandruvada wrote:
We see several performance issues reading individual axis, when
raw read is the only option. Since most of the time user space reads x, y and z, one after other, this results in three sysfs reads, and based on
chipset we have to power up or set up measurement mode and wait for
response.
That's probably a case for a change in the driver to schedule the power
down for a little period after the read rather than immediately...
Agree, if we can do that. But some chips have a single measurement mode,
after measurement is done they go to sleep mode, like AK8975 (they
do have other modes with power penalty).
For example reading x,y and z takes 160ms for ak8975, it is true for
other too. But reading together takes only 80ms.

IIO types already defined a modifier for X_AND_Y_AND_Z, which is used
by one driver to send event code. This modifier has no value assigned
so (null) appears in sysfs. If this is not correct then we may need
another modifier.

Since we have now raw_read with capability to read multiple values,
we can use this callback to return values to iio core.

I've actually argued fairly strongly against this sort of multiple
channel simply because it means there are multiple ways of presenting the same data in the ABI. The big difference with the Quaternion case is that
the elements of that have no meaning whatsoever if you don't have them
all.

Previously any indication that people wanted higher performance reads
would mean that I'd just tell them that is what the chardev interface
is for.  Here a simple sysfs trigger and a couple of extra lines in the
driver and you'd have what you want with considerably less overhead.
But using these I/F, you loose IIO ABI advantage for user space. This was the model followed and still followed by, but requires special user space changes for every sensor driver. With IIO model, we let vendors pick their components
as long as they have an IIO driver, with no change in user space.
I'm unclear by why this needs special purpose userspace.
Generally it's trivial to establish if a part supplies it's own
trigger (data ready for example). If not then a sysfs trigger
or similar is needed and can be instantiated just fine by
generic userspace.
I misunderstood your comment. We always provide the buffer I/F, where we have some data ready interrupts. In this case we are fine. We don't have sysfs triggers,
which, I should try to check how much time I can save.

Hence my initial thought to this patch is that I'm not keen. However,
lets let it sit for a while and see what other comments people have.
Perhaps if there is enough demand I might rethink my position.

Let's see, I feel that it will help for phone/tablet like power sensitive devices but doemands performance.
Sure - though you are never going to get significant performance through
sysfs interfaces...  They just aren't intended for that purpose. Last
thing we want to do is convert back and forwards from a string for starters!
I am not talking about bandwidth limitation from user/kernel interface, which sysfs is not designed for.
We have better options than even char-dev for that purpose.

I understand your point of providing a single way to present data. This change breaks this assumption. If someone else needs,
we can discuss again.

Thanks,
Srinivas


J

Thanks,
Srinivas

Jonathan
Srinivas Pandruvada (2):
   iio: core: add xyz modifier value
   iio: magnetometer: ak8975: Improve performance of raw reads

  drivers/iio/industrialio-core.c   |  1 +
drivers/iio/magnetometer/ak8975.c | 58 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------
  2 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)







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