Re: [PATCH v4 17/23] dt-bindings: ata: ahci: Add DWC AHCI SATA controller DT schema

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On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 02:13:42PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 07, 2022 at 06:25:39PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 04:36:42PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 10:37:44PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 04:27:54PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:17:55AM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > > > Synopsys AHCI SATA controller is mainly compatible with the generic AHCI
> > > > > > SATA controller except a few peculiarities and the platform environment
> > > > > > requirements. In particular it can have one or two reference clocks to
> > > > > > feed up its AXI/AHB interface and SATA PHYs domain and at least one reset
> > > > > > control for the application clock domain. In addition to that the DMA
> > > > > > interface of each port can be tuned up to work with the predefined maximum
> > > > > > data chunk size. Note unlike generic AHCI controller DWC AHCI can't have
> > > > > > more than 8 ports. All of that is reflected in the new DWC AHCI SATA
> > > > > > device DT binding.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Note the DWC AHCI SATA controller DT-schema has been created in a way so
> > > > > > to be reused for the vendor-specific DT-schemas (see for example the
> > > > > > "snps,dwc-ahci" compatible string binding). One of which we are about to
> > > > > > introduce.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Changelog v2:
> > > > > > - Replace min/max constraints of the snps,{tx,rx}-ts-max property with
> > > > > >   enum [ 1, 2, 4, ..., 1024 ]. (@Rob)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Changelog v4:
> > > > > > - Decrease the "additionalProperties" property identation otherwise it's
> > > > > >   percieved as the node property instead of the key one. (@Rob)
> > > > > > - Use the ahci-port properties definition from the AHCI common schema
> > > > > >   in order to extend it with DWC AHCI SATA port properties. (@Rob)
> > > > > > - Remove the Hannes' rb tag since the patch content has changed.
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .../bindings/ata/ahci-platform.yaml           |   8 --
> > > > > >  .../bindings/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml           | 129 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 129 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/ahci-platform.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/ahci-platform.yaml
> > > > > > index e19cf9828e68..7dc2a2e8f598 100644
> > > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/ahci-platform.yaml
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/ahci-platform.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -30,8 +30,6 @@ select:
> > > > > >            - marvell,armada-3700-ahci
> > > > > >            - marvell,armada-8k-ahci
> > > > > >            - marvell,berlin2q-ahci
> > > > > > -          - snps,dwc-ahci
> > > > > > -          - snps,spear-ahci
> > > > > >    required:
> > > > > >      - compatible
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > @@ -48,17 +46,11 @@ properties:
> > > > > >                - marvell,berlin2-ahci
> > > > > >                - marvell,berlin2q-ahci
> > > > > >            - const: generic-ahci
> > > > > > -      - items:
> > > > > > -          - enum:
> > > > > > -              - rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci
> > > > > > -          - const: snps,dwc-ahci
> > > > > >        - enum:
> > > > > >            - cavium,octeon-7130-ahci
> > > > > >            - hisilicon,hisi-ahci
> > > > > >            - ibm,476gtr-ahci
> > > > > >            - marvell,armada-3700-ahci
> > > > > > -          - snps,dwc-ahci
> > > > > > -          - snps,spear-ahci
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >    reg:
> > > > > >      minItems: 1
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml
> > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 000000000000..af78f6c9b857
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@
> > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > +---
> > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/ata/snps,dwc-ahci.yaml#
> > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +title: Synopsys DWC AHCI SATA controller
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > +  - Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +description:
> > > > > > +  This document defines device tree bindings for the Synopsys DWC
> > > > > > +  implementation of the AHCI SATA controller.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +allOf:
> > > > > > +  - $ref: ahci-common.yaml#
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys AHCI SATA-compatible devices
> > > > > > +        contains:
> > > > > > +          const: snps,dwc-ahci
> > > > > > +      - description: SPEAr1340 AHCI SATA device
> > > > > > +        const: snps,spear-ahci
> > > > > > +      - description: Rockhip RK3568 ahci controller
> > > > > > +        const: rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > This is never true because there is a fallback. We should keep what we 
> > > > > had before.
> > > > 
> > > > Could you be more specific what you meant? I don't see
> > > > "snps,spear-ahci" and "rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci" used with the fallback
> > > > string so modification is correct in that case.
> > > 
> > 
> > > Spear does not, just rockchip:
> > > 
> > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3568.dtsi:               compatible = "rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci", "snps,dwc-ahci";
> > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk356x.dtsi:               compatible = "rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci", "snps,dwc-ahci";
> > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk356x.dtsi:               compatible = "rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci", "snps,dwc-ahci";
> > > 
> > > So the 3rd entry is never true.
> > 
> > Then I'll have to split the schema up into two bindings:
> > 1. snps,dwc-ahci-common.yaml: generic DW SATA AHCI properties and no "compatible"
> > property constraint since you said fallback was useless.
> > 2. snps,dwc-ahci.yaml: generic DW SATA AHCI DT-schema with
> > competibles: ("snps,dwc-ahci"), ("snps,spear-ahci"),
> > ("rockchip,rk3568-dwc-ahci","snps,dwc-ahci").
> > 
> > Are you ok with this?
> 

> Yes.
> 
> > BTW if we had the fallback required the splitting up couldn't have
> > been needed.
> 
> We generally end up needing a split like this anyways.

Ok. I'll split it up into two schemas then.

> 
> 
> > > > My idea was to have the compatible strings with the required generic
> > > > fallback "snps,dwc-ahci" for all new devices thus identifying the
> > > > controller IP-core origin. But later you said "The generic IP block
> > > > fallbacks have proven to be useless." I do agree that functionally it
> > > > isn't that often used, but in some cases it can be handy for instance
> > > > to implement quirks in the generic code or use the fallback as an
> > > > additional info regarding the IP-core origin/version. So if I were you
> > > > I wouldn't be that strict about dropping the generic IP-core fallback
> > > > identifier. It's much easier to have it specified from the very
> > > > beginning than adding it after it has been declared as not required.
> > > 
> > > I wish they were useful, but experience has shown they are not.
> > 
> > So what to do with the generic fallback compatibles then? Please
> > answer to the next questions so I would correct all my currently
> > stashed patches in accordance with it.
> > 
> > 1) Do you want all the new DT-binding schemas refusing to have the
> > fallback compatibles except for the nodes which bindings have already
> > been defined that way?
> 
> Yes. I wouldn't go quite as far as 'refusing'. I'm okay with a fallback 
> in cases that are simple enough to actually work without platform 
> specific code. As soon as the clocks, resets, phys, etc. aren't 
> standard, that goes out the window. Based on experience, that pretty 
> much never happens except on the IP vendor's FPGA.
> 
> 
> > 2) What if a device IP-core has some versioning, but it's either
> > not auto-detectable at runtime or can be auto-detected but starting
> > from some IP-core version? Do we need it being specified in addition
> > to the vendor-specific compatible string?
> 
> By the time you are probing the device, you know the specific SoC and 
> can just set a version variable easily. Why have a string to parse that 
> doesn't work for version comparisons (e.g GT/GE/LT).
> 
> Also, what if you don't know the exact IP version? Maybe you can guess 
> that it is at least at certain version based on knowing the features, so 
> you set that version. Would you really want to put that guess in DT when 
> later on you might need to change it?
> 
> > 3) The same as 2), but shall it have a generic version-less fallback
> > compatible string too?
> 
> If the device can function without the version specific compatible.
> 
> > 4) The same as 2), but what if it concerns a device which driver
> > relies on the versioning?
> > 
> > 5) The same as 2), but what if it concerns the device which currently
> > doesn't have a driver relying on the IP-core version?
> 
> Again, let the driver set the version based on the platform specific 
> compatible.
> 
> > 6) What if we don't have the generic fallback compatible string
> > required, but at some point a kernel would need it to
> > implement a version/IP-core-specific quirk? If we had the generic
> > fallback specified in dts the older systems would have been supported
> > out-of-box, otherwise the firmware update would also needed.
> 
> Again, when you start probing the device, you already know the specific 
> platform implementation. From that, you can easily imply the IP vendor 
> and version. No DT change needed.
> 
> > IMO having the IP-core version + generic compatibles give many
> > benefits and it's much easier to have them required from the very
> > beginning instead of adding afterwards when then a need arises.
> 
> Certainly adding afterwards is broken. That's why we insist on SoC 
> specific compatibles. Adding them when we have some platform specific 
> quirk doesn't work.

Got it. Thanks for the very thorough clarification. I'll fix my patches
in accordance with the described requirements.

-Serge(y)

> 
> Rob



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