For now I've posted this here http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2016-02-22_Thinkpad-P70-NVME-vs-M2-Sata-vs-2_5inch-Sata-SSD.html along with a few pictures of the thinkpad P70 I'm still not sure why NVMe is slower than Sata when going through the block cache, but oh well, the rest seems to be working well enough for now. Marc > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 07:13:33PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Hi Matthew, > > > > I didn't find a list for NVMe, I'll Cc linux-ide in case this is useful > > to others. > > > > I just got a Thinkpad P70 skylake laptop and thought I'd try 3 SSDs: > > NVMe/M2 vs Sata/M2 vs Sata/6GB. > > I'm not a benchmarking filesystem expert, so my apologies if I made some > > stupid choices, but hopefully the benchmarks are still useful. > > > > I'll give the conclusions first. The buffer cache issue with NVMe is weird, > > maybe there is a non default setting I need to tweak? > > > > a) NVMe is faster for big contiguous I/O, even through dmcrypt > > b) M2 NVMe and M2 sata do not seem to go through buffer cache for writes, but SATA/6GB does > > c) When using buffer cache, SATA/6GB beats NVMe/M2 and SATA/M2 by a lot on block reads. Why? > > d) for random I/O, NVMe is up to 50% faster, and faster with ext4 than btrfs > > e) Encrypted NVMe is a bit faster than non encrypted Sata/M2 > > f) At $328 for 512GB M2/NVMe vs $168 for 500GB M2/Sata, unless you're doing big contiguous I/O, the 2x price difference is hard to justify, cached I/O and random I/O are not significantly faster on NVMe. > > > > > > > > 3 SSDs: > > 1) M2/SATA Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB M.2 3.5-Inch SSD (MZ-N5E500BW) 33c/GB > > > > 2) M2/NVMe: Samsung 950 PRO -Series 512GB PCIe NVMe - M.2 Internal SSD 2-Inch MZ-V5P512BW 64c/GB > > 70:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a802 (rev 01) > > > > 3) SATA6G: Samsung 850 EVO 2 TB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E2T0B/AM) 30c/GB > > > > For price comparison > > Seagate 2TB Laptop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache 2.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive (ST2000LM003) 4.6c/GB > > > > Laptop: Skylake Lenovo Thinkpad P70 > > Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz x 8 (4 cores HT) > > > > Filesystem: btrfs on top of > > cryptsetup luksFormat --align-payload=8192 -s 256 -c aes-xts-plain64 /dev/device > > ddd test: sync; dd if=/mnt/ram/file of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=100M > > dd0 test: sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > > > Summary: > > 0) NVMe only really looks faster on big block sequential read/write (indeed 4X read, 2X write). > > On Random I/O, it's no faster. Other overheads kill its performance advantage. > > 1) For Cached I/O NVMe seems slowed down by dmcrypt in hdparm/ioz ranread/write whereas M2/Sata is not > > 2) 2TB Sata 6GB SSD is faster for read/write encrypted than NVMe is non encrypted (except hdparm) > > 3) iozone through block cache is faster on M2/SATA than M2/NVMe, weird > > 4) iozone through block cache is much faster for everything on Sata6G, also weird > > 5) iozone direct I/O shows NVMe is fastest (by 50% only) and external SATA just a bit faster than M2/Sata > > 6) when using dmcrypt, NVMe is only marginally faster in iozone than Sata/M2 or Sata/6G > > 7) kernel build speed is same on SATA/M2 and NVMe/M2, encrypted or not, but SATA6G is 10% faster (probably the same effect that block cache works better on SATA/6G than SATA/M2 or NVMe/M2) > > 8) ext4 does better on iozone -I (directIO) than btrfs, 2x as fast on random read for NVMe > > > > > > > > SATA/M2 dmcrypt SATA/M2 NVMe dmcrypt NVMe SATA6GB/dmcrypt > > hdparm -t 534MB/s 517MB/s 1307MB/s 2140MB/s 534MB/s > > ddd 10GB read 550MB/s 560MB/s 2000MB/s 2400MB/s 550MB/s > > ddd 10GB write 500MB/s 503MB/s 1300MB/s 1200MB/s 506MB/s > > > > dd with /dev/zero hits optimizations that actually penalize NVMe: > > dd0 10GB read 7GB/s 6.7GB/s 2.3GB/s 4.4GB/s 6.6GB/s > > dd0 10GB write 495MB/s 503MB/s 1.3GB/s 1.3GB/s 2.0GB/s > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2 (cache makes Sata6G faster than M2, weird): > > ioz read 4KB 1760MB/s 1790MB/s 675MB/s 766MB/s 7863MB/s > > ioz write 4KB 268MB/s 298MB/s 295MB/s 291MB/s 777MB/s > > ioz ranread4KB 5535MB/s 7392MB/s 3185MB/s 7261MB/s 7892MB/s > > ioz ranwrite4KB 288MB/s 329MB/s 205MB/s 381MB/s 796MB/s > > > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2 (direct IO): > > SATA/M2 dmcrypt SATA/M2 NVMe dmcrypt NVMe SATA6GB > > dmcrypt notcrypted > > btrfs btrfs ext4 btrfs btrfs ext4 btrfs ext4 > > ioz read 4KB 255MB/s 303MB/s 408MB/s 303MB/s 396MB/s 562MB/s 310MB/s 379MB/s > > ioz write 4KB 195MB/s 238MB/s 344MB/s 257MB/s 358MB/s 361MB/s 233MB/s 365MB/s > > ioz ranread4KB 305MB/s 351MB/s 482MB/s 476MB/s 699MB/s1434MB/s 309MB/s 475MB/s > > ioz ranwrite4KB 265MB/s 223MB/s 392MB/s 260MB/s 217MB/s 315MB/s 254MB/s 366MB/s > > > > > > Details of each test, per type of drive; > > ================================================================================ > > saruman M2 SATA 512GB encrypted btrfs > > > > saruman:/tmp# hdparm -t /dev/mapper/cryptroot > > Timing buffered disk reads: 1604 MB in 3.00 seconds = 534.03 MB/sec > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > random random > > kB reclen write rewrite read reread read write > > 4096 4 257076 281089 1761711 6094733 6066754 290373 > > 4096 512 277108 295167 1588844 8426437 11128258 318731 > > 4096 4096 268940 308248 1760087 8062616 8377131 320802 > > > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 38626 45227 102236 111141 30936 64317 > > 4096 512 138467 128878 134674 137832 140067 126248 > > 4096 4096 195439 273100 255379 307300 305605 265093 > > > > > > saruman:/mnt/mnt# sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 21.1761 s, 495 MB/s > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 1.49373 s, 7.0 GB/s > > > > kernel 4.4.1 make -j8: > > real 17m54.712s > > user 126m26.620s > > sys 6m21.948s > > > > btrfs send/receive encrypted partition to non encrypted, 87GB: 10mn30 > > > > saruman M2 SATA non encrypted btrfs > > ----------------------------------- > > saruman:/mnt/mnt4# hdparm -t /dev/sdc4 > > /dev/sdc4: > > Timing buffered disk reads: 1554 MB in 3.00 seconds = 517.93 MB/sec > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > random random > > kB reclen write rewrite read reread read write > > 4096 4 285020 297565 1739944 7434579 6605595 305785 > > 4096 512 310937 336617 1298278 3703511 5483860 299416 > > 4096 4096 298433 317101 1790911 7392988 7434579 337476 > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 47219 93497 118900 126065 39160 86462 > > 4096 512 214381 213388 194307 209215 206951 209289 > > 4096 4096 238792 221839 303768 352951 351342 223618 > > ext4 iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 119524 146035 150173 159105 53090 140697 > > 4096 512 358954 354810 366466 423088 419760 375542 > > 4096 4096 344087 398828 408259 478337 482569 392487 > > > > saruman:/mnt/mnt3# sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 20.8537 s, 503 MB/s > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 1.55651 s, 6.7 GB/s > > > > kernel 4.4.1 make -j8: > > real 17m55.612s > > user 126m31.952s > > sys 6m27.452s > > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > saruman M2 NVMe 512GB encrypted btrfs > > > > saruman:/tmp# hdparm -t /dev/mapper/cryptroot2 > > /dev/mapper/cryptroot2: > > Timing buffered disk reads: 3924 MB in 3.00 seconds = 1307.56 MB/sec > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > random random > > kB reclen write rewrite read reread read write > > 4096 4 284205 341651 742181 6195843 6178018 341101 > > 4096 512 314351 319573 864883 8865630 8902382 384993 > > 4096 4096 295741 201042 675234 3281854 3185110 205974 > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 80042 83160 122616 127129 41421 53963 > > 4096 512 168713 153333 167710 209923 198123 168026 > > 4096 4096 257968 258566 303023 490828 476440 260014 > > > > > > saruman:/mnt/mnt2# sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 8.01494 s, 1.3 GB/s > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 4.63397 s, 2.3 GB/s > > > > kernel 4.4.1 make -j8: > > real 17m57.513s > > user 126m58.360s > > sys 6m25.164s > > > > btrfs send/receive encrypted partition to non encrypted, 87GB: 7mn > > (33% faster than Sata M2) > > > > saruman M2 NVMe non encrypted btrfs > > ----------------------------------- > > saruman:/mnt/mnt4# hdparm -t /dev/nvme0n1p4 > > /dev/nvme0n1p4: > > Timing buffered disk reads: 6422 MB in 3.00 seconds = 2140.38 MB/sec > > > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > random random > > kB reclen write rewrite read reread read write > > 4096 4 274808 271851 684271 2634219 2280673 177630 > > 4096 512 290191 336755 668196 3362795 4039655 184779 > > 4096 4096 291427 340345 766588 7355007 7261741 381768 > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 94814 117116 147645 159695 44075 108039 > > 4096 512 271130 267800 239969 325933 301841 271062 > > 4096 4096 358602 275933 396591 719099 699939 217665 > > ext4 iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > 4096 4 107281 200735 205900 263035 54832 124219 > > 4096 512 537478 374641 525060 1173664 1139338 558807 > > 4096 4096 361545 526137 562632 1483477 1434069 315883 > > > > saruman:/mnt/mnt4# sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 7.90653 s, 1.3 GB/s > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 2.35863 s, 4.4 GB/s > > > > kernel 4.4.1 make -j8: > > real 17m54.221s > > user 126m46.264s > > sys 6m10.592s > > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > saruman Samsung Evo 850 2TB SSD encrypted btrfs > > > > hdparm -t > > Timing buffered disk reads: 1606 MB in 3.00 seconds = 534.87 MB/sec > > > > iozone -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2: > > random random > > kB reclen write rewrite read reread read write > > 4096 4 513924 738957 8586475 9144037 8017464 697665 > > 4096 512 772100 820362 9287391 10136778 10586522 840551 > > 4096 4096 719099 777517 7863339 8047509 7892238 796108 > > > > iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2 > > 4096 4 76626 47961 92886 80947 36063 63788 > > 4096 512 135087 138998 143127 150981 144393 132219 > > 4096 4096 233245 234058 310797 311552 309855 254080 > > > > ext4 iozone -I -e -a -s 4096 -i 0 -i 1 -i 2 (unencrypted) > > 4096 4 118013 141212 130575 111534 42343 138654 > > 4096 512 336347 312192 332847 414404 424542 342707 > > 4096 4096 365227 364638 379298 484160 475122 366536 > > > > > > saruman:/tmp# sync; dd if=/dev/zero of=file bs=100M count=100 conv=fdatasync; dd if=file of=/dev/null bs=1M > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 5.23919 s, 2.0 GB/s > > 10485760000 bytes (10 GB) copied, 1.58287 s, 6.6 GB/s > > > > > > kernel 4.4.1 make -j8: > > real 16m4.305s > > user 104m0.816s > > sys 7m2.832s > > > > > > -- > > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 1024R/763BE901 > -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. 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