> A few more things just in case. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 04:39:37PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote: > > It tells me that Hans has more spare time than I do. > > This is the crux of the problem, isn't it? The party who is creating > load should also partake in and invest resource into making the > infrastructure for it. What I can't understand is how one can claim > "unfairness" at having to contribute to such effort when that is > clearly the party which is the primary beneficiary of the added load. > If you have *any* mature sense of fairness, not this childish "it's > not going my way", the irony should be clear to you. > > > This work would even be something I'd be interested in helping out > > with - even in my own time, but the way you speak to people doesn't > > exactly inspire them to go out of my way to work with you does it? > > Given the circumstances, I don't think depending on good wills of the > involved parties is a viable strategy and wanted to make it clear that > the responsibility of chipping in for long term maintainability is on > everyone who wants to make use of the code base. This is beyond good > will. It's the fundamental sharing of responsibility for > sustainability. I'd love to have good will but I can't build that on > top of a notion as rotten as "it's not fair, it's not my > responsibility". > > > Again, that's not what I said. It's great that your subsystem is being > > improved, but insisting that anyone who submits new code to rebase > > on top of some development patches which only exist in mail form, and > > refusing to take patches until they do so doesn't seem right to me. > > If I apply your patch now, Hans has one more driver to worry about in > doing the work that he himself isn't directly benefiting from but > everybody needs. In what world is that fair? > > So, sorry about going f bomb on you, but you shouldn't be thinking > what you're thinking. There's some serious misguidance going on > there. Have you listened to a word I've said? Or have you managed to get your self all tangled up in what you _assumed_ was meant by the 3 words I mentioned about fairness at the very start of this conversation? Me thinks the latter might be true. Just because I don't contribute to your subsystem, it doesn't mean I don't contribute elsewhere. Here... let me help you down from that big horse! ;) -- Lee Jones Linaro STMicroelectronics Landing Team Lead Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html