On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Ahmed S. Darwish <darwish.07@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I've faced some very early panics in latest kernel. Being a run of the mill > x86 laptop, the machine is void of debugging aids like serial ports or > network boot. > > As a possible solution, below patches prototypes the idea of persistently > storing the kernel log ring to a hard disk partition using the enhanced BIOS > 0x13 services. Quite frankly, I'm not likely to _ever_ merge anything like this. Over the years, many people have tried to write things to disk on oops. I refuse to take it. No way in hell do I want the situation of "the system is screwed, so let's overwrite the disk" to be something the kernel I release might do. It's crazy. That disk is a lot more important than the kernel, and overwriting it when we might have serious memory corruption issues or something is not a thing I feel is appropriate. I also don't think that it's safe to use the BIOS routines. That's not the environment they have been tested in - the boot environment is very different from the "running kernel" setup. Devices will have been possibly remapped, virtual mappings are different, things are just very random. Some vendors have taken things like this in the past, but I just wanted to say that I think it's too damn scary. I _really_ don't see the point. If you want to do the BIOS services thing, do it for video: copy the oops to low RAM, return to real mode, re-run the graphics card POST routines to initialize text-mode, and use the BIOS to print out the oops. That is WAY less scary than writing to disk. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html