On Saturday 14 November 2009 00:46:29 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > On Friday 13 November 2009 19:25:15 Alan Cox wrote: > > > Fine but please update status of following host drivers that were > > > marked as "stable" prematurely by commit e3389cb first: > > > > > > PATA_PDC_OLD: needs to be marked as EXPERIMENTAL (or just BROKEN) > > > - known reliability problems with UDMA > > > > A few odd reports apparently linked to specific chip revs. It's at > > least as stable as the old IDE one which doesn't work on my hardware. I'd > > Skipping the technical merit of the quoted text for the moment -- I find > the fact that you keep calling the present IDE host drivers (that many > developers helped to fix) as "old" ones or "buggy" ones rather degrading > for their (this includes me of course) hard work. > > Especially given your complete lack of familiarity with post-2004 changes. > > See for yourself, *50* mostly _trivial_ patches during *5* years: > > [ "git log --follow --since="5 years ago" drivers/ide|grep "Author: Alan Cox" -B1 -A3" > output edited for easier reading ] I've also looked at ATA side of the things for the last *3* years now: $ git log --follow --since="3 years ago" drivers/ata|grep "Author: Alan Cox"|wc -l 173 [ ~5 patches a month and most of the work was to bring PATA on the level that old IDE code has offered back in 2005.. ] also before people start calling me names or teach me about "accumulated credibility" concept: I'm in no way trying to deny people's past achievements (hey, I got inspired by Alan's work myself in early days) but I would like to raise the awareness that these days it is a way more difficult than it was in the past to make significant and/or large scale changes so new people are stuck in Catch22 when it comes to "accumulated credibility".. -- Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
