For months I was wondering how a disk could do this: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 skip=551540 count=4 # succeeds dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 skip=551544 count=4 # succeeds dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 skip=551540 count=8 # fails It turns out the disk isn't doing that. Linux is. The old IDE drivers did it, but with LIBATA the same thing happens to /dev/sda. In later examples also, the same happens to /dev/sda as /dev/hda. Here's what the disk is really responsible for: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 skip=551562 count=1 # really fails Here's Linux to blame again: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=512 skip=551561 count=1 # fails When the drive reports an uncorrectable media error, Linux correctly records it in the log. But when the app didn't ask for that block, when blocks that the app asked for were all read, Linux incorrectly reports failure to the app. I don't know how Linux decides how many blocks to read ahead, but no matter how many it chooses, read ahead is read ahead. Go ahead and record it in the log. I'd also like to suggest that if a user is logged in on the screen (whether X11 or text) see if we can warn them that their disk is dying. But don't return a failure to the app. If the blocks that the app asked for were read, we should give them to the app, successfully. Sheesh. P.S. One would expect this to persuade the hard drive to relocate the block: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 seek=551562 count=1 But it doesn't because Linux wants to read 4 blocks, modify 1, and write 4 blocks. The read fails. One would expect this to persuade the hard drive to relocate the block: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 seek=551560 count=4 But it doesn't because the hard drive reports success. If an app tries to read the bad sector again it still fails. So the drive has egregiously bad firmware. That doesn't excuse Linux. -------------------------------------- Power up the Internet with Yahoo! Toolbar. http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/toolbar/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html