On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:56, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote: > > > Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros > > > (gentoo->ubuntu) > > > and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc or -mm kernels (I > > > know this isn't a lkml problem > > > but more a distro problem, but I would love having an ubuntu blessed > > > repo with current dev kernel > > > for the latest stable ubuntu release). > > > > There are two parts to this. One is a Ubuntu development kernel which > > we can give to large numbers of people to expand our testing pool. > > But if we don't do a better job of responding to bug reports that > > would be generated by expanded testing this won't necessarily help us. > >... > > The main problem aren't missing testers [1] - we already have relatively > experienced people testing kernels and/or reporting bugs, and we slowly > scare them away due to the many bug reports without any reaction. > > The main problem is finding experienced developers who spend time on > looking into bug reports. > > Getting many relatively unexperienced users (who need more guidance for > debugging issues) as additional testers is therefore IMHO not > necessarily a good idea. And where experienced developrs are coming from? They are not born with Linux kernel skills. They grow up from within user base. Bigger user base -> more developers (eventually) -- vda - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html