On 9/28/07, Jeff Garzik <jeff@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (my last response only addressed -mm) > > Mark Lord wrote: > > I believe the point was that getting things into libata is glacial > > IMHO would say that there are two causes of that: > 1) I am sometimes slow in merging, part of which is my own fault, and I > can only promise to try and do better there. Part of which is a result > of stuff being dependent on -mm (which requires plenty of time > hand-merging) rather than libata-dev.git#upstream. > > 2) I have been intentionally staging major libata behavior changes > between Linux releases. Luckily most of these are behind us, but, in > several cases with things like ACPI on/off (hopefully 'on' in 2.6.24), > probing changes (switchover to new EH for probing via hotplug, etc.), > interrupt handling changes. > > I dislike getting "too much" into a single release, because of the > difficulty of getting large scale feedback without a major kernel release. > > So far I think the kernel releases have been pretty darn successful in > "not breaking everybody" but that clearly conflicts with desired > development speed, given the glacial pace of each kernel release. If > each kernel release were 1-2 months apart, we would have many more > testing points, and I think you guys and I would both be happy. But > that's not the reality today, with 3+ month kernel release cycles (ugh!!). > > I'm very much interested in hearing suggestions and comments. > > Jeff Perhaps you could more fully leverage the various distro alpha/beta/rcs/release kernels. Specific to the PMP patches, they went into the openSUSE beta/rc kernels (2.6.23 based) in early Aug. I think. So they have already been through a significant set of Novell internal and community testing. Likely similar testing to what it would get in -mm. I believe they are part of the OpenSUSE 10.3 (2.6.23 based) full release that is set for Thursday (Oct. 4) and thus will see a huge amount of public testing. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ide" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html