On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:13:32 +0100, Michael Lawnick wrote: > Jean Delvare said the following: > > Hi Michael, > > > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:19:27 +0100, Michael Lawnick wrote: > >> could you give it a look? > >> If you at least ACK the interface, I could do the patch for the > >> documentation. > > > > Come on, which part of "this should be implemented in sysfs" did you > > not understand? I'm a little tired of you trying to implement it using > > _all_ other possible ways except the one we agreed on. If you need this > > feature faster than I can implement it, please stick to the plan and > > implement it using sysfs. If not, then just stay quiet and wait for it > > to happen. > > Huh - don't bite me! > > This step I wanted to discuss next: > AFAICS I2C subsystem doesn't implement any sysFs-entry itself. They are > all either from client or device-driver system. You didn't look carefully then. From i2c-core.c: static ssize_t show_adapter_name(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf) { struct i2c_adapter *adap = to_i2c_adapter(dev); return sprintf(buf, "%s\n", adap->name); } static struct device_attribute i2c_adapter_attrs[] = { __ATTR(name, S_IRUGO, show_adapter_name, NULL), { }, }; static struct class i2c_adapter_class = { .owner = THIS_MODULE, .name = "i2c-adapter", .dev_attrs = i2c_adapter_attrs, }; > I not even dared to ask > for a comment to this before adding the feature on i2c-dev, a way that > does not change the visible interface. What do you think i2c-dev is, if not a visible interface? If we add a new ioctl to the i2c-dev interface, we have to maintain it forever. That's not to be done lightly just because you can't wait for you actual need to be fulfilled by i2c-core. > I can't wait too long for implementation on sysFs. I'm ready to do it > now, if we agree on the place where to create the entries, naming and > interface. The place is very clearly /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-*, next to the "name" attribute I quoted above. The naming and interface are to be discussed. Could be 2 write-only files, add_device and delete_device, and the most basic syntax I can think of would be: echo lm75 0x49 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/add_device echo 0x49 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/delete_device add_device would optionally accept an irq value. As for delete_device, I am wondering if we should require the chip name as well, for symmetry with add_device and for safety reasons, or if the above is sufficient. > What is your time line? Getting rid of the legacy binding model has higher priority and is far from being done. I also must take care of Rodolfo's multiplexer support, which a lot of people have been asking for, and which might as well be what you really need. The above interface comes next, I can't give it higher priority as the same can already be achieved today using module parameters for most drivers. > Naming IMHO should be probe/remove, parameters could be No, we can't use probe/remove as these are used for a completely different meaning in the Linux driver model (and these _are_ misnomers there, no question about that, but we have to live with it.) Not that "probe" would be a good name anyway, as you are instantiating a device, you are not probing for anything. > "<client-name>,<id>" / "<id>", just as done in i2c-dev implementation, > if created per adapter. I'd go with a space instead of comma between parameters, for consistency with the pci subsystem's "new_id" files. And it's really <address>, NOT <id>, even though we use the address as part of the device id internally. > But where to place? Answered above, that was the easy part. -- Jean Delvare -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-i2c" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html