On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 3:09 PM Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 8:31 PM Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 12:34 PM Herve Codina <herve.codina@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Herve Codina (2): > > > gpiolib: call gcdev_unregister() sooner in the removal operations > > > gpiolib: cdev: release IRQs when the gpio chip device is removed > (...) > > Sorry but this is just papering over the real issue. I'd say NAK for > > now as I'd really prefer to get to the root of the problem and fix it > > for all GPIO interrupt users. > > > > Kent, Linus: what do you think? > > I'm not sure. What does "all GPIO interrupt users" mean in this context? > > If you mean "also the kernel-internal" (such as some random driver > having performed gpiod_to_irq() and requested it or, taken it from a > phandle in the device tree) then I think these are slightly semantically > different. > Yes I mean both in-kernel and user-space consumers. > The big difference is that users of the cdev are *expected* to *crash* > sometimes, releasing the file handle and then this cleanup needs to > happen. Also cdev is more likely to be used for hotplugged/unplugged > GPIOs. > > The kernel-internal users are *not* expected to crash, but to clean up > their usage the right way. Also they are predominantly if not exclusively > used for fixed GPIOs such as those on an SoC that do not hot-unplug > and go away randomly. > > Use case 1: you run gpio-mon on a random GPIO with IRQ on a board. > It is using a SoC-native GPIO. Suddenly gpio-mon crashes because > of OOM or whatever and releases the filehandle on the way down. > What to do? > > Use case 2: you plug in a USB dongle with GPIOs on. Start gpio-mon > on one of the pins. Unplug the dongle. Then it is fair that the cdev cleans > up the irq, because I don't see any way that a kernel driver would > request any of these GPIOs (but I'm more uncertain here). > > I just think it is necessary to think about the big picture here. > Agreed and the big picture - just like with the reason behind the SRCU rework - is the fact that even static GPIO chips defined in ACPI or DT can be unbound. Unless you want to make the decision that we arbitrarily suppress_bind_attrs for all GPIO chips which I don't think you do. I have shown in the discussion under the previous iteration that a static GPIO chip defined in DT that is also marked as an interrupt-controller may have interrupts requested directly from its irq domain bypassing the .to_irq() callback. As long as this GPIO chip may be unbound (and we do not restrict this) it means the splat mentioned here can be triggered from user-space with a simple rmmod because a requested irq does not increase the module reference count nor do device links seem to work for interrupts not associated with a struct device explicitly. I DO want to fix it, don't get me wrong. I don't want to just leave it like this, especially since we've made so much progress with hotpluggability recently. I just don't believe this is the right fix, I will try to come up with a solution that addresses the issue globally. Bart > Yours, > Linus Walleij [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAMRc=Mf5fRWoOMsJ41vzvE=-vp3wi-Obw=j5fBk3DuQaZNQP2Q@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/