Re: [PATCH v14 00/15] phy: Add support for Lynx 10G SerDes

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On 4/29/23 13:24, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:50:17AM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
>> > I need to catch up with 14 rounds of patches from you and with the
>> > discussions that took place on each version, and understand how you
>> > responded to feedback like "don't remove PHY interrupts without finding
>> > out why they don't work"
>> 
>> All I can say is that
>> 
>> - It doesn't work on my board
>> - The traces are on the bottom of the PCB
>> - The signal goes through an FPGA which (unlike the LS1046ARDB) is closed-source
> 
> I don't understand the distinction you are making here. Are the sources
> for QIXIS bit streams public for any Layerscape board?

Correct. The sources for the LS1046ARDB QIXIS are available for download.

>> - The alternative is polling once a second (not terribly intensive)
> 
> It makes a difference to performance (forwarded packets per second), believe it or not.

I don't. Please elaborate how link status latency from the phy affects performance.

>> 
>> I think it's very reasonable to make this change. Anyway, it's in a separate
>> patch so that it can be applied independently.
> 
> Perhaps better phrased: "discussed separately"...
> 
>> > Even if the SERDES and PLL drivers "work for you" in the current form,
>> > I doubt the usefulness of a PLL driver if you have to disconnect the
>> > SoC's reset request signal on the board to not be stuck in a reboot loop.
>> 
>> I would like to emphasize that this has *nothing to do with this driver*.
>> This behavior is part of the boot ROM (or something like it) and occurs before
>> any user code has ever executed. The problem of course is that certain RCWs
>> expect the reference clocks to be in certain (incompatible) configurations,
>> and will fail the boot without a lock. I think this is rather silly (since
>> you only need PLL lock when you actually want to use the serdes), but that's
>> how it is. And of course, this is only necessary because I was unable to get
>> major reconfiguration to work. In an ideal world, you could always boot with
>> the same RCW (with PLL config matching the board) and choose the major protocol
>> at runtime.
> 
> Could you please tell me what are the reference clock frequencies that
> your board provides at boot time to the 2 PLLs, and which SERDES
> protocol out of those 2 (1133 and 3333) boots correctly (no RESET_REQ
> hacks necessary) with those refclks? I will try to get a LS1046A-QDS
> where I boot from the same refclk + SERDES protocol configuration as
> you, and use PBI commands in the RCW to reconfigure the lanes (PLL
> selection and protocol registers) for the other mode, while keeping the
> FRATE_SEL of the PLLs unmodified.

 From table 31-1 in the RM, the PLL mapping for 1133 is 2211, and the
 PLL mapping for 3333 is 2222. As a consequence, for 1133, PLL 2 must be
 156.25 MHz and PLL 1 must be either 100 or 125 MHz. And for 3333, PLL 2
 must be either 100 or 125 MHz, and PLL 1 should be shut down (as it is
 unused). This conflict for PLL 2 means that the same reference clock
 configuration cannot work for both 1133 and 3333. In one of the
 configurations, SRDS_RST_RR will be set in RSTRQSR1. On our board,
 reference clock 1 is 156.25 MHz, and reference clock 2 is 125 MHz.
 Therefore, 3333 will fail to boot. Unfortunately, this reset request
 occurs before any user-configurable code has run (except the RCW), so
 it is not possible to fix this issue with e.g. PBI.

 --Sean
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