On 28.12.2017 05:58, William Breathitt Gray wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 07:42:21PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote: >> On 27.12.2017 01:24, William Breathitt Gray wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote: >> (..) >>>> All the existing ISA bus drivers seem to depend on CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API >>>> instead of selecting it but IMHO this is wrong because: >>>> 1) This Kconfig option doesn't really enable or disable any bus support >>>> but building of a library of some common boilerplate code. >>>> Libraries are normally selected by drivers needing them and only provided >>>> as an user-selectable option if there is a possibility that a out-of-tree >>>> module would need it, >>>> >>>> 2) On x86_64 this option (or rather, its parent option CONFIG_ISA_BUS) >>>> cannot be enabled without CONFIG_EXPERT, >>>> >>>> 3) This device isn't really a ISA bus device any more than, for example, >>>> a 8250 serial port or a PC-style parallel port and these don't need >>>> that an user explicitly enables "ISA bus support" in his kernel >>>> configuration. >>> >>> I can see what you mean about selecting ISA_BUS_API rather than having >>> it as a dependency for drivers. Part of the reason I added the >>> CONFIG_EXPERT dependency for CONFIG_ISA_BUS -- as well as having >>> CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API be a dependency for the drivers themselves -- was to >>> hide the ISA-style drivers which blindly poke at I/O port addresses, >>> lest a niave user enable all available drivers and unintentionally brick >>> their system when the drivers execute. >>> >>> I think there is still merit in masking dangerous drivers such as this, >>> since the expected behavior nowadays is for the driver to probe for the >>> device before poking at memory; since ISA-style communication lacks a >>> standard method of detecting devices in hardware, these devices >>> generally pose a danger when loaded by niave users. >> >> This driver accesses the same Super I/O chip as w83627ehf hwmon and >> w83627hf_wdt watchdog drivers. >> In addition to this, there are loads of other hwmon and watchdog drivers >> for x86 Super I/Os in the tree, most of them using the same probing and >> communication style. >> There are even existing GPIO drivers for some Super I/Os like gpio-it87 >> and gpio-f7188x. >> >> None of these drivers need CONFIG_EXPERT to be selected. >> >> Also, CONFIG_EXPERT is described as "Configure standard kernel features" >> and that "[it] allows certain base kernel options and settings to be >> disabled or tweaked" for "specialized environments". >> Enabling this driver is not about changing "standard kernel feature" or >> a "base kernel option [or] setting". > > I'm sorry, I didn't make it quite clear in my previous reply. I agree > with you that CONFIG_EXPERT shouldn't be necessary for this driver -- in > the end, a select ISA_BUS_API line should be all that's needed to have > ISA bus driver support for your driver. My apologies for misunderstanding you. > My reference to the CONFIG_EXPERT option is for masking options related > to other ISA-style buses not commonly found in desktop systems. Devices > like the Super I/O chip wouldn't fall into this category since LPC is > pretty common and the relevant I/O port addresses are usually well > known. Ultimately, the Winbond GPIO driver should not need CONFIG_EXPERT > to be enabled in order to select ISA_BUS_API. Thanks for the explanation, it is clear for me now what you had on mind. > William Breathitt Gray > Maciej Szmigiero -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-gpio" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html