On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Maciej S. Szmigiero wrote: >On 24.12.2017 23:42, William Breathitt Gray wrote: >(..) >> By the way, don't hesitate to ask for more information on the ISA >> subsystem -- a lot of maintainers are unaware that it even exists since >> so few devices nowadays use ISA-style communication -- but I'm always >> happy to help. :) > >It turns out that all this ISA bus is behind CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API which >cannot be automatically selected by this driver due to a recursive >dependency conflict with CONFIG_STX104. Hmm, you may have discovered a bug in my STX104 Kconfig option. I'm CCing Jonathan Cameron to keep him in the loop if I send a patch to fix this issue down the road. Here are the error messages printed on my system when I add a select ISA_BUS_API line to the GPIO_WINBOND Kconfig option in the version 2 of your patch: drivers/gpio/Kconfig:13:error: recursive dependency detected! For a resolution refer to Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt subsection "Kconfig recursive dependency limitations" drivers/gpio/Kconfig:13: symbol GPIOLIB is selected by STX104 For a resolution refer to Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt subsection "Kconfig recursive dependency limitations" drivers/iio/adc/Kconfig:659: symbol STX104 depends on ISA_BUS_API For a resolution refer to Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt subsection "Kconfig recursive dependency limitations" arch/Kconfig:818: symbol ISA_BUS_API is selected by GPIO_WINBOND For a resolution refer to Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt subsection "Kconfig recursive dependency limitations" drivers/gpio/Kconfig:701: symbol GPIO_WINBOND depends on GPIOLIB The issue seems to relate to the select GPIOLIB line for the STX104 Kconfig option (which has a ISA_BUS_API dependency). Switching GPIOLIB to be a dependency, or alternatively selecting ISA_BUS_API, alleviates the recursion. Linus, is my use of select GPIOLIB for the STX104 Kconfig option appropriate in this context -- or should it instead be part of the depends on line? The STX104 driver includes linux/gpio/driver.h and makes use of the devm_gpiochip_add_data function to add support for some minor auxililary GPIO lines on the STX104 device. > >All the existing ISA bus drivers seem to depend on CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API >instead of selecting it but IMHO this is wrong because: >1) This Kconfig option doesn't really enable or disable any bus support >but building of a library of some common boilerplate code. >Libraries are normally selected by drivers needing them and only provided >as an user-selectable option if there is a possibility that a out-of-tree >module would need it, > >2) On x86_64 this option (or rather, its parent option CONFIG_ISA_BUS) >cannot be enabled without CONFIG_EXPERT, > >3) This device isn't really a ISA bus device any more than, for example, >a 8250 serial port or a PC-style parallel port and these don't need >that an user explicitly enables "ISA bus support" in his kernel >configuration. I can see what you mean about selecting ISA_BUS_API rather than having it as a dependency for drivers. Part of the reason I added the CONFIG_EXPERT dependency for CONFIG_ISA_BUS -- as well as having CONFIG_ISA_BUS_API be a dependency for the drivers themselves -- was to hide the ISA-style drivers which blindly poke at I/O port addresses, lest a niave user enable all available drivers and unintentionally brick their system when the drivers execute. I think there is still merit in masking dangerous drivers such as this, since the expected behavior nowadays is for the driver to probe for the device before poking at memory; since ISA-style communication lacks a standard method of detecting devices in hardware, these devices generally pose a danger when loaded by niave users. However, I think CONFIG_EXPERT by itself is sufficient enough masking to help prevent niave users from enabling these drivers on a whim. Linus and Jonathan, do you have any objections if I replace the ISA_BUS_API dependencies on my drivers to respective select lines? I think this would have the benefit of resolving the Kconfig recursive dependency issue too. > >To be clear I'm fine with converting this driver to use the ISA bus (in >fact, I have already done so), but I think that currently this would be >a regression from user-friendliness perspective due to the points above. Regardless of the Kconfig decisions we make, continue to utilize the ISA bus driver in your code as this API is the correct one to use for your LPC devices. Kconfig improvements can be made later on, separate from the driver code, so there's no need to let that be a deciding factor in getting the driver itself right -- although I do agree that having a Kconfig setup that does not appeal solely to the masochists is an important end goal. ;) William Breathitt Gray > >> William Breathitt Gray > >Best regards, >Maciej Szmigiero -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-gpio" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html