Hi Al,
On 13 Oct 2014, at 03:14, Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:56:11AM +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
>> I am just wondering whether there might be error conditions in which we might end up with a (perhaps invalid) negative dentry in memory which could be found here? Probably not a problem especially now that d_invalidate() cannot fail any more.
>
> Huh? Failing d_invalidate() on _negative_ dentry is flat-out impossible;
> it would be dropped just fine, and we wouldn't have found it in the first
> place. Check what it used to do all way back to 2.2.0:
> if (dentry->d_count) {
> if (dentry->d_inode && S_ISDIR(dentry->d_inode->i_mode))
> return -EBUSY;
> }
>
> So unless you care about 2.1.something (2.0 didn't have dcache at all),
> this scenario isn't possible.
That's fine then. And no I don't care about 2.1. I start caring at 2.6.15 at the moment.
> In any case, d_add_ci() users that might have negative dentries become
> positive cannot afford hashed negative dentries at all - at the very
> least they need to treat them as invalid in ->d_revalidate() in such
> situations.
Yes, that is what I do. I have my own d_revalidate method which reports all negative dentries as invalid any time a new name is added in the parent directory. In fact I set d_time of each dentry to i_version of the parent directory inode and on each "add name to directory" I bump i_version of the parent directory and d_revalidate checks d_time against d_parent->d_inode->i_version and if not equal the negative dentry is considered invalid and that seems to work fine (I ignore d_time on positive dentries in d_revalidate).
> Exactly because having a hashed valid negative dentry for
> FuBaR after e.g. mkdir fubar will really hurt - mkdir won't have any way
> to know that old dentry was there; there was no variant of fubar in directory
> prior to that mkdir (FuBaR _was_ negative) and there's nothing to suggest
> looking for it. So it won't be noticed and it'll bloody well stay negative
> and hashed. I.e. stat FuBaR; mkdir fubar; stat FuBaR will have the second
> stat find dentry still hashed and valid negative.
>
> You can get away with that if you store something like timestamp[1] of
> the parent directory in those negative dentries and check that in
> ->d_revalidate(). But that will work just fine, since d_add_ci() is
> serialized by ->i_mutex held on parent and whatever it was that added your
> "exact spelling" into directory has made all preexisting negative dentries
> invalid...
Yes, that is basically what I do except I use i_version on the parent rather than its d_time and I don't set d_time to zero (I always set it to i_version of parent instead though I doubt it matters in the slightest - I could equally not be setting it at all for positive dentries given I never check it for them).
Best regards,
Anton
> [1] for arbitrary values of time - e.g.
> on positive lookup set ->d_time to 0
> on negative lookup set ->d_time to that of parent dentry
> on mkdir set ->d_time to 0
> on unlink, rmdir and rename victim copy ->d_time from parent dentry
> on any directory modification bump its ->d_time
> on d_revalidate of negative dentry compare ->d_time with that of parent
> dentry and declare invalid on mismatch
> will do just fine.
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