On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Or we can keep both completely separate like Linus does on x86. I did it that way mainly to minimize the patch. I agree with you that it probably makes sense to layer them the other way around from what Michael's patch did, iow implement arch_spin_is_locked() in terms of arch_spin_value_unlocked(). That said, on power, you have that "ACCESS_ONCE()" implicit in the *type*, not in the code, so an "arch_spinlock_t" is fundamentally volatile in itself. It's one of the reasons I despise "volatile": things like volatility are _not_ attributes of a variable or a type, but of the code in question. Something can be volatile in one context, but not in another (one context might be locked, for example). Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html