On Wednesday 14 November 2012 14:56:00 Pavel Emelyanov wrote: > >>> How much space does a typical file system need to encode a handle? Am I > >>> right that for must it is just a few bytes? (I just glanced at the code > >>> so I might be wrong.) In which case, could the handle buffer be > >>> allocated > >>> dynamically depending on the underlying filesystem? Perhaps adding a > >>> facility to query a filesystem about its maximum handle buffer needs? Do > >>> you think the saving would justify this extra work? > >> > >> Well, the MAX_HANDLE_SZ is taken from NFSv4 and is 128 bytes which is > >> quite > >> big for inotify extension indeed. The good news is that this amount of > >> bytes seem to be required for the most descriptive fhandle -- with info > >> about parent, etc. We don't need such, we can live with shorter handle, > >> people said that 40 bytes was enough for that. > >> > >> However, your idea about determining the handle size dynamically seems > >> promising. As far as I can see from the code we can call for encode_fh > >> with > >> size equals zero and filesystem would report back the amount of bytes it > >> requires for a handle. > >> > >> We can try going this route, what do you think? > > > > Sounds much better since that would only add one pointer to the watch > > structure in the normal case. > > > > Also at checkpoint time it will use only a few bytes (compared to 64) for > > the encode buffer for most filesystems. This part is probably not that > > important but still a win. > > No, the thing is -- we need to know the handle _before_ we start checkpoint. > More exactly -- at the time the inotify_add_watch is called. So the memory > save would be not that big. Ah yes, I forgot about that. But the saving is quite solid as Cyrill already wrote. It is still a bit unfortunate you have to have handles allocated all the time just because C&R is compiled in. There is no way you could ask the filesystem to create you one on demand. What would you need? Just the superblock and inode, or more? Regards, Tvrtko -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html