Cc to BTRFS mailinglist as it triggered the idea of mine again. Hi! Today I did it again and removed a BTRFS partition that is written too. That BTRFS as of Kernel 3.0.3 (debian package) does not like very much. I think thats a known issue and I wrote a mail to BTRFS mailing list about it. In there I wrote: > Expected results: > > BTRFS fails gracefully except the loss of data from writes in flight, the > machine remains usable and BTRFS can be mounted again. And then cause the expected results IMHO are by no way the ideal results: > Ideal results (IMHO): > > Linux behaved like AmigaOS and told me that I *must* insert the device > again and *continues* writing after I did this. But I never saw any other OS that did that. And I see the problems with high bandwidth writes piling up in memory causing severe memory pressure. But then could Linux just freeze processes that continue writing to the drive until it is replugged again? Of course that shouldn´t happen to the drive / resides on. And there is a userspace part in it - the possibly udev and dbus driven notification to the user. Yet despite all of this NetBSD has a gsoc 2011 project at least suggested for exactly this behavior: Graceful USB disk detach/reattach http://wiki.netbsd.org/projects/gsoc_2011/disk-removal/ They even mention the Amiga in there. Okay, its only for USB, not for eSATA, but I think it should be made generic for removable devices. Would that be possible? I gladly file an enhancement request about it or help testing it. I think thats the only approach that makes sense here. USB sticks and harddisks have no means to disallow device removal at any time. Thus the OS should offer the user a way to rethink the decision and plug the device in to prevent data loss. Actually I am surprised that no other operating system except AmigaOS seemed to offer this behavior. Well I am not quite sure about MS-DOS writing to disk. Maybe it even did that. But I did not use MS-DOS often. All current mainstream operating systems I know of default to loose data in that case. I think there is a better choice. What do you think? Might not be much of a server feature, but important for the desktop. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
