On Thu 2011-05-26 12:30:07, Casey Schaufler wrote: > On 5/26/2011 11:38 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > > On Thu 2011-05-26 14:11:54, David Safford wrote: > >> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 09:34 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote: > >>> On 5/25/2011 11:08 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: > >>>> ... > >>>> Fourthly, is it likely to find its way to the next cellphone I buy, > >>>> and will it prevent me from rooting it? > >>> That will of course depend on the phone vendor. You are certainly > >>> going to be able to vote with your checkbook (digital wallet?) but > >>> odds are pretty good that should EVM prove effective it will be > >>> ubiquitous within the next five years on embedded devices. > > Hmm. But maybe it is more effective to vote with NAKs, now? It does > > not seem to have any non-evil uses. > > > > Phone vendors will play nasty tricks on us, but... why make it easy > > for them? > > For one thing, it is probable that in the not-too-distant future > the phone will not be yours. Many service providers are moving in > the direction of zero-cost phones. The subscriber will pay the Really? References? No, I don't think this is going to happen, for variety of reasons. 1) prepaid cards, 2) phones are easily damaged, 3) phones are often stolen. > Most people will not notice the difference. Consider this a > nasty trick if you want to. I expect that the average consumer I _do_ consider it nasty trick... > Welcome to computers in the 21st century. ...and I do not want to help people playing nasty tricks. Protection against offline attacks should not be merged. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
