On 5/26/2011 11:38 AM, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Thu 2011-05-26 14:11:54, David Safford wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 09:34 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote: >>> On 5/25/2011 11:08 PM, Pavel Machek wrote: >>>> ... >>>> Fourthly, is it likely to find its way to the next cellphone I buy, >>>> and will it prevent me from rooting it? >>> That will of course depend on the phone vendor. You are certainly >>> going to be able to vote with your checkbook (digital wallet?) but >>> odds are pretty good that should EVM prove effective it will be >>> ubiquitous within the next five years on embedded devices. > Hmm. But maybe it is more effective to vote with NAKs, now? It does > not seem to have any non-evil uses. > > Phone vendors will play nasty tricks on us, but... why make it easy > for them? For one thing, it is probable that in the not-too-distant future the phone will not be yours. Many service providers are moving in the direction of zero-cost phones. The subscriber will pay the monthly charge and the phone (smart or dumb) will be included in the package. The difference between that and what is available today will be a teeny tiny paragraph in the contract that says that the free phone remains the property of the service provider. Most people will not notice the difference. Consider this a nasty trick if you want to. I expect that the average consumer will love it because they will be spending 5 dollars/euros/pounds a month less. Service providers will love it because the upgrade and control choice will be theirs. There is nothing evil about maintaining the owner's control over the device. The fact that the device is in a user's hand does not transfer ownership to the user. Welcome to computers in the 21st century. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html