On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:49:58PM -0700, Mingming Cao wrote: > On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 13:17 +1100, Dave Chinner wrote: > > For direct IO, the IO lock is always taken in shared mode, so we can > > have concurrent read and write operations taking place at once > > regardless of the offset into the file. > > > > thanks for reminding me,in xfs concurrent direct IO write to the same > offset is allowed. ocfs2 as well, with the same sort of strategem (including across the cluster). > > Direct IO semantics have always been that the application is allowed > > to overlap IO to the same range if it wants to. The result is > > undefined (just like issuing overlapping reads and writes to a disk > > at the same time) so it's the application's responsibility to avoid > > overlapping IO if it is a problem. > > > > I was thinking along the line to provide finer granularity lock to allow > concurrent direct IO to different offset/range, but to same offset, they > have to be serialized. If it's undefined behavior, i.e. overlapping is > allowed, then concurrent dio implementation is much easier. But not sure > if any apps currently using DIO aware of the ordering has to be done at > the application level. Oh dear God no. One of the major DIO use cases is to tell the kernel, "I know I won't do that, so don't spend any effort protecting me." Joel -- "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying." - Woody Allen http://www.jlbec.org/ jlbec@xxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html