Re: file handle in statx (was: Re: How to cope with subvolumes and snapshots on muti-user systems?)

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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 09:57:22AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:40:16PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> > > Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I was chatting a bit with David Howells on IRC about this, and floated
> > > > adding the file handle to statx. It looks like there's enough space
> > > > reserved to make this feasible - probably going with a fixed maximum
> > > > size of 128-256 bits.
> > > 
> > > We can always save the last bit to indicate extension space/extension record,
> > > so we're not that strapped for space.
> > 
> > So we'll need that if we want to round trip NFSv4 filehandles, they
> > won't fit in existing struct statx (nfsv4 specs 128 bytes, statx has 96
> > bytes reserved).
> > 
> > Obvious question (Neal): do/will real world implementations ever come
> > close to making use of this, or was this a "future proofing gone wild"
> > thing?
> 
> I have no useful data.  I have seen lots of filehandles but I don't pay
> much attention to their length.  Certainly some are longer than 32 bytes.
> 
> > 
> > Say we do decide we want to spec it that large: _can_ we extend struct
> > statx? I'm wondering if the userspace side was thought through, I'm
> > sure glibc people will have something to say.
> 
> The man page says:
> 
>      Therefore, do not simply set mask to UINT_MAX (all bits set), as
>      one or more bits may, in the future, be used to specify an
>      extension to the buffer.
> 
> I suspect the glibc people read that.

The trouble is that C has no notion of which types are safe to pass
across a dynamic library boundary, so if we increase the size of struct
statx and someone's doing that things will break in nasty ways.




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