On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 1:50 PM Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Stephen! > > On Fri 11-11-22 14:06:09, Stephen Brennan wrote: > > Here's my v4 patch series that aims to eliminate soft lockups when updating > > dentry flags in fsnotify. I've incorporated Jan's suggestion of simply > > allowing the flag to be lazily cleared in the fsnotify_parent() function, > > via Amir's patch. This allowed me to drop patch #2 from my previous series > > (fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem). I > > replaced it with "fsnotify: require inode lock held during child flag > > update", patch #5 in this series. I also added "dnotify: move > > fsnotify_recalc_mask() outside spinlock" to address the sleep-during-atomic > > issues with dnotify. > > Yes, the series is now much simpler. Thanks! > > > Jan expressed concerns about lock ordering of the inode rwsem with the > > fsnotify group mutex. I built this with lockdep enabled (see below for the > > lock debugging .config section -- I'm not too familiar with lockdep so I > > wanted a sanity check). I ran all the fanotify, inotify, and dnotify tests > > I could find in LTP, with no lockdep splats to be found. I don't know that > > this can completely satisfy the concerns about lock ordering: I'm reading > > through the code to better understand the concern about "the removal of > > oneshot mark during modify event generation". But I'm encouraged by the > > LTP+lockdep results. > > So I had a look and I think your patches could cause deadlock at least for > nfsd. The problem is with things like inotify IN_ONESHOT marks. They get > autodeleted as soon as they trigger. Thus e.g. fsnotify_mkdir() can trigger > IN_ONESHOT mark and goes on removing it by calling fsnotify_destroy_mark() > from inotify_handle_inode_event(). And nfsd calls e.g. fsnotify_mkdir() > while holding dir->i_rwsem held. So we have lock ordering like: > > nfsd_mkdir() > inode_lock(dir); > ... > __nfsd_mkdir(dir, ...) > fsnotify_mkdir(dir, dentry); > ... > inotify_handle_inode_event() > ... > fsnotify_destroy_mark() > fsnotify_group_lock(group) > > So we have dir->i_rwsem > group->mark_mutex. But we also have callchains > like: > > inotify_add_watch() > inotify_update_watch() > fsnotify_group_lock(group) > inotify_update_existing_watch() > ... > fsnotify_recalc_mask() > inode_lock(dir); -> added by your series > > which creates ordering group->mark_mutex > dir->i_rwsem. > > It is even worse with dnotify which (even with your patches) ends up > calling fsnotify_recalc_mask() from dnotify_handle_event() so we have a > possibility of direct A->A deadlock. But I'd leave dnotify aside, I think > that can be massaged to not need to call fsnotify_recalc_mask() > (__fsnotify_recalc_mask() would be enough there). > > Still I'm not 100% sure about a proper way out of this. The simplicity of > alias->d_subdirs iteration with i_rwsem held is compeling. Agreed. > We could mandate > that fsnotify hooks cannot be called with inode->i_rwsem held (and fixup > nfsd) but IMO that is pushing the complexity from the fsnotify core into > its users which is undesirable. I think inode in this context is the parent inode, so all fsnotify hooks in namei.c are holding inode->i_rwsem by design. > Maybe we could grab inode->i_rwsem in those > places adding / removing notification marks before we grab > group->mark_mutex, just verify (with lockdep) that fsnotify_recalc_mask() > has the inode->i_rwsem held and be done with it? That pushes a bit of > complexity into the fsnotify backends but it is not too bad. > fsnotify_recalc_mask() gets only called by dnotify, inotify, and fanotify. > Amir? > Absolutely agree - I think it makes sense and will simplify things a lot. Obviously if we need to assert inode_is_locked() in fsnotify_recalc_mask() only for (conn->type == FSNOTIFY_OBJ_TYPE_INODE). Thanks, Amir.