Hi Stephen! On Fri 11-11-22 14:06:09, Stephen Brennan wrote: > Here's my v4 patch series that aims to eliminate soft lockups when updating > dentry flags in fsnotify. I've incorporated Jan's suggestion of simply > allowing the flag to be lazily cleared in the fsnotify_parent() function, > via Amir's patch. This allowed me to drop patch #2 from my previous series > (fsnotify: Protect i_fsnotify_mask and child flags with inode rwsem). I > replaced it with "fsnotify: require inode lock held during child flag > update", patch #5 in this series. I also added "dnotify: move > fsnotify_recalc_mask() outside spinlock" to address the sleep-during-atomic > issues with dnotify. Yes, the series is now much simpler. Thanks! > Jan expressed concerns about lock ordering of the inode rwsem with the > fsnotify group mutex. I built this with lockdep enabled (see below for the > lock debugging .config section -- I'm not too familiar with lockdep so I > wanted a sanity check). I ran all the fanotify, inotify, and dnotify tests > I could find in LTP, with no lockdep splats to be found. I don't know that > this can completely satisfy the concerns about lock ordering: I'm reading > through the code to better understand the concern about "the removal of > oneshot mark during modify event generation". But I'm encouraged by the > LTP+lockdep results. So I had a look and I think your patches could cause deadlock at least for nfsd. The problem is with things like inotify IN_ONESHOT marks. They get autodeleted as soon as they trigger. Thus e.g. fsnotify_mkdir() can trigger IN_ONESHOT mark and goes on removing it by calling fsnotify_destroy_mark() from inotify_handle_inode_event(). And nfsd calls e.g. fsnotify_mkdir() while holding dir->i_rwsem held. So we have lock ordering like: nfsd_mkdir() inode_lock(dir); ... __nfsd_mkdir(dir, ...) fsnotify_mkdir(dir, dentry); ... inotify_handle_inode_event() ... fsnotify_destroy_mark() fsnotify_group_lock(group) So we have dir->i_rwsem > group->mark_mutex. But we also have callchains like: inotify_add_watch() inotify_update_watch() fsnotify_group_lock(group) inotify_update_existing_watch() ... fsnotify_recalc_mask() inode_lock(dir); -> added by your series which creates ordering group->mark_mutex > dir->i_rwsem. It is even worse with dnotify which (even with your patches) ends up calling fsnotify_recalc_mask() from dnotify_handle_event() so we have a possibility of direct A->A deadlock. But I'd leave dnotify aside, I think that can be massaged to not need to call fsnotify_recalc_mask() (__fsnotify_recalc_mask() would be enough there). Still I'm not 100% sure about a proper way out of this. The simplicity of alias->d_subdirs iteration with i_rwsem held is compeling. We could mandate that fsnotify hooks cannot be called with inode->i_rwsem held (and fixup nfsd) but IMO that is pushing the complexity from the fsnotify core into its users which is undesirable. Maybe we could grab inode->i_rwsem in those places adding / removing notification marks before we grab group->mark_mutex, just verify (with lockdep) that fsnotify_recalc_mask() has the inode->i_rwsem held and be done with it? That pushes a bit of complexity into the fsnotify backends but it is not too bad. fsnotify_recalc_mask() gets only called by dnotify, inotify, and fanotify. Amir? > I originally wrote this series to make the last patch (#5) optional: if for > some reason we didn't think it was necessary to hold the inode rwsem, then > we could omit it -- the main penalty being the race condition described in > the patch description. I tested without the last patch and LTP passed also > with lockdep enabled, but of course when multiple tasks did an inotifywait > on the same directory (with many negative dentries) only the first waited > for the flag updates, the rest of the tasks immediately returned despite > the flags not being ready. > > I agree with Amir that as long as the lock ordering is fine, we should keep > patch #5. And if that's the case, I can reorder the series a bit to make it > a bit more logical, and eliminate logic in > fsnotify_update_children_dentry_flags() for handling d_move/cursor races, > which I promptly delete later in the series. > > 1. fsnotify: clear PARENT_WATCHED flags lazily > 2. fsnotify: Use d_find_any_alias to get dentry associated with inode > 3. dnotify: move fsnotify_recalc_mask() outside spinlock > 4. fsnotify: require inode lock held during child flag update > 5. fsnotify: allow sleepable child flag update > > Thanks for continuing to read this series, I hope we're making progress > toward a simpler way to fix these scaling issues! Yeah, so I'd be for making sure i_rwsem is held where we need it first and only after that add reschedule handling into fsnotify_update_children_dentry_flags(). That makes the series more logical. Honza -- Jan Kara <jack@xxxxxxxx> SUSE Labs, CR