On 1/23/19 11:04 AM, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 07:02:30PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: >> On Tue 22-01-19 11:46:13, Jerome Glisse wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 04:24:59PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: >>>> On Thu 17-01-19 10:17:59, Jerome Glisse wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:30:47AM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>> On Wed 16-01-19 08:08:14, Jerome Glisse wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:38:19PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue 15-01-19 09:07:59, Jan Kara wrote: >>>>>>>>> Agreed. So with page lock it would actually look like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> get_page_pin() >>>>>>>>> lock_page(page); >>>>>>>>> wait_for_stable_page(); >>>>>>>>> atomic_add(&page->_refcount, PAGE_PIN_BIAS); >>>>>>>>> unlock_page(page); >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And if we perform page_pinned() check under page lock, then if >>>>>>>>> page_pinned() returned false, we are sure page is not and will not be >>>>>>>>> pinned until we drop the page lock (and also until page writeback is >>>>>>>>> completed if needed). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After some more though, why do we even need wait_for_stable_page() and >>>>>>>> lock_page() in get_page_pin()? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> During writepage page_mkclean() will write protect all page tables. So >>>>>>>> there can be no new writeable GUP pins until we unlock the page as all such >>>>>>>> GUPs will have to first go through fault and ->page_mkwrite() handler. And >>>>>>>> that will wait on page lock and do wait_for_stable_page() for us anyway. >>>>>>>> Am I just confused? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah with page lock it should synchronize on the pte but you still >>>>>>> need to check for writeback iirc the page is unlocked after file >>>>>>> system has queue up the write and thus the page can be unlock with >>>>>>> write back pending (and PageWriteback() == trye) and i am not sure >>>>>>> that in that states we can safely let anyone write to that page. I >>>>>>> am assuming that in some case the block device also expect stable >>>>>>> page content (RAID stuff). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So the PageWriteback() test is not only for racing page_mkclean()/ >>>>>>> test_set_page_writeback() and GUP but also for pending write back. >>>>>> >>>>>> But this is prevented by wait_for_stable_page() that is already present in >>>>>> ->page_mkwrite() handlers. Look: >>>>>> >>>>>> ->writepage() >>>>>> /* Page is locked here */ >>>>>> clear_page_dirty_for_io(page) >>>>>> page_mkclean(page) >>>>>> -> page tables get writeprotected >>>>>> /* The following line will be added by our patches */ >>>>>> if (page_pinned(page)) -> bounce >>>>>> TestClearPageDirty(page) >>>>>> set_page_writeback(page); >>>>>> unlock_page(page); >>>>>> ...submit_io... >>>>>> >>>>>> IRQ >>>>>> - IO completion >>>>>> end_page_writeback() >>>>>> >>>>>> So if GUP happens before page_mkclean() writeprotects corresponding PTE >>>>>> (and these two actions are synchronized on the PTE lock), page_pinned() >>>>>> will see the increment and report the page as pinned. >>>>>> >>>>>> If GUP happens after page_mkclean() writeprotects corresponding PTE, it >>>>>> will fault: >>>>>> handle_mm_fault() >>>>>> do_wp_page() >>>>>> wp_page_shared() >>>>>> do_page_mkwrite() >>>>>> ->page_mkwrite() - that is block_page_mkwrite() or >>>>>> iomap_page_mkwrite() or whatever filesystem provides >>>>>> lock_page(page) >>>>>> ... prepare page ... >>>>>> wait_for_stable_page(page) -> this blocks until IO completes >>>>>> if someone cares about pages not being modified while under IO. >>>>> >>>>> The case i am worried is GUP see pte with write flag set but has not >>>>> lock the page yet (GUP is get pte first, then pte to page then lock >>>>> page), then it locks the page but the lock page can make it wait for a >>>>> racing page_mkclean()...write back that have not yet write protected >>>>> the pte the GUP just read. So by the time GUP has the page locked the >>>>> pte it read might no longer have the write flag set. Hence why you need >>>>> to also check for write back after taking the page lock. Alternatively >>>>> you could recheck the pte after a successful try_lock on the page. >>>> >>>> This isn't really possible. GUP does: >>>> >>>> get_user_pages() >>>> ... >>>> follow_page_mask() >>>> ... >>>> follow_page_pte() >>>> ptep = pte_offset_map_lock() >>>> check permissions and page sanity >>>> if (flags & FOLL_GET) >>>> get_page(page); -> this would become >>>> atomic_add(&page->_refcount, PAGE_PIN_BIAS); >>>> pte_unmap_unlock(ptep, ptl); >>>> >>>> page_mkclean() on the other hand grabs the same pte lock to change the pte >>>> to write-protected. So after page_mkclean() has modified the PTE we are >>>> racing on for access, we are sure to either see increased _refcount or get >>>> page fault from GUP. >>>> >>>> If we see increased _refcount, we bounce the page and are fine. If GUP >>>> faults, we will wait for page lock (so wait until page is prepared for IO >>>> and has PageWriteback set) while handling the fault, then enter >>>> ->page_mkwrite, which will do wait_for_stable_page() -> wait for >>>> outstanding writeback to complete. >>>> >>>> So I still conclude - no need for page lock in the GUP path at all AFAICT. >>>> In fact we rely on the very same page fault vs page writeback synchronization >>>> for normal user faults as well. And normal user mmap access is even nastier >>>> than GUP access because the CPU reads page tables without taking PTE lock. >>> >>> For the "slow" GUP path you are right you do not need a lock as the >>> page table lock give you the ordering. For the GUP fast path you >>> would either need the lock or the memory barrier with the test for >>> page write back. >>> >>> Maybe an easier thing is to convert GUP fast to try to take the page >>> table lock if it fails taking the page table lock then we fall back >>> to slow GUP path. Otherwise then we have the same garantee as the slow >>> path. >> >> You're right I was looking at the wrong place for GUP_fast() path. But I >> still don't think anything special (i.e. page lock or new barrier) is >> necessary. GUP_fast() takes care already now that it cannot race with page >> unmapping or write-protection (as there are other places in MM that rely on >> this). Look, gup_pte_range() has: >> >> if (!page_cache_get_speculative(head)) >> goto pte_unmap; >> >> if (unlikely(pte_val(pte) != pte_val(*ptep))) { >> put_page(head); >> goto pte_unmap; >> } >> >> So that page_cache_get_speculative() will become >> page_cache_pin_speculative() to increment refcount by PAGE_PIN_BIAS instead >> of 1. That is atomic ordered operation so it cannot be reordered with the >> following check that PTE stayed same. So once page_mkclean() write-protects >> PTE, there can be no new pins from GUP_fast() and we are sure all >> succeeding pins are visible in page->_refcount after page_mkclean() >> completes. Again this is nothing new, other mm code already relies on >> either seeing page->_refcount incremented or GUP fast bailing out (e.g. DAX >> relies on this). Although strictly speaking I'm not 100% sure what prevents >> page->_refcount load to be speculatively reordered before PTE update even >> in current places using this but there's so much stuff inbetween that >> there's probably something ;). But we could add smp_rmb() after >> page_mkclean() before changing page_pinned() for the peace of mind I guess. > > Yeah i think you are right, i missed the check on same pte value > and the atomic inc in page_cache_get_speculative() is a barrier. > I do not think the barrier would be necessary as page_mkclean is > taking and dropping locks so those should have enough barriering. > Hi Jan, Jerome, OK, this seems to be up and running locally, but while putting together documentation and polishing up things, I noticed that there is one last piece that I don't quite understand, after all. The page_cache_get_speculative() existing documentation explains how refcount synchronizes these things, but I don't see how that helps with synchronization page_mkclean and gup, in this situation: gup_fast gets the refcount and rechecks the pte hasn't changed meanwhile, page_mkclean...wait, how does refcount come into play here? page_mkclean can remove the mapping and insert a write-protected pte, regardless of page refcount, correct? Help? :) thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA