Re: [fuse-devel] Difference between invalidating and deleting dentry

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 4:51 AM, Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>> Really no one able to clarify the difference between the FUSE invalidate
>>> and delete dentry requests?
>>
>> It may sound strange to you, but I think the documentation is clear enough.
>> The difference is that in delete case, you *know* that the entry has
>> been deleted
>> and in invalidate case, you may not know what happened to the entry.
>> The specific use cases are implementation specific, but maybe you lost
>> contact with remote server or maybe the remote protocol imposes a timeout
>> for validity or maybe you do not have enough information
>> to figure out if the entry has been deleted and re-created.
>> Invalidate simply means that you no longer know that the entry is valid.
>
> That was the intent, yes.  However 'invalidate' + 'lookup negative'
> should be equivalent to 'delete'.  And it is.
>
> The reason why 'delete' was introduced by commit 451d0f599934 ("FUSE:
> Notifying the kernel of deletion.") is that 'invalidate' wasn't able
> to remove in-use subtrees.
>
> Commit bafc9b754f75 ("vfs: More precise tests in d_invalidate")
> changed that, so now 'notify_delete' is superfluous and AFAICS the
> effect of it is exactly the same as 'notify_invalidate'.
>

Minus fsnotify_nameremove() for whatever it is worth.

Amir.
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