Re: fscrypt and FIPS

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On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 11:04 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:47:05PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > Some more info, sorry for the delay.
> > 
> > Currently, as epxlained eralier, the HKDF is approved only in specific
> > cases (from SP.800-56C rev 2), which is why I asked Jeff to inquire if
> > KDF agility was possible for fscrypt.
> > 
> > That said, we are also trying to get NIST to approve HKDF for use in
> > SP800-133 covered scenarios (Symmetric Keys Derived from Pre-Existing
> > Key), which is the case applicable to fscrypt (afaict).
> > 
> > SP.800-133 currently only allows KDFs as defined in SP.800-108, but
> > there is hope that SP.800-56C rev 2 KDFs can be alloed also, after all
> > they are already allowed for key-agreement schemes.
> > 
> > Hope this clears a bit why we inquired, it is just in case, for
> > whatever reason, NIST decided not to approve or delays a decision; to
> > be clear, there is nothing wrong in HKDF itself that we know of.
> > 
> 
> Just getting HKDF properly approved seems like a much better approach than doing
> a lot of work for nothing.  Not just for fscrypt but also for everything else
> using HKDF.

Yes, this would be the ideal outcome!
But I have to figure out the "what if" too ..

> - Eric
> 

-- 
Simo Sorce
RHEL Crypto Team
Red Hat, Inc







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