Eric Biggers <ebiggers@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 04:16:30PM -0400, Gabriel Krisman Bertazi wrote: >> Eric Biggers <ebiggers@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 11:06:57PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm also having trouble understanding exactly when ->d_name is stable here. >> >> AFAICS, unfortunately the VFS has an edge case where a dentry can be moved >> >> without its parent's ->i_rwsem being held. It happens when a subdirectory is >> >> "found" under multiple names. The VFS doesn't support directory hard links, so >> >> if it finds a second link to a directory, it just moves the whole dentry tree to >> >> the new location. This can happen if a filesystem image is corrupted and >> >> contains directory hard links. Coincidentally, it can also happen in an >> >> encrypted directory due to the no-key name => normal name transition... >> > >> > Sorry, I think I got this slightly wrong. The move does happen with the >> > parent's ->i_rwsem held, but it's for read, not for write. First, before >> > ->lookup is called, the ->i_rwsem of the parent directory is taken for read. >> > ->lookup() calls d_splice_alias() which can call __d_unalias() which does the >> > __d_move(). If the old alias is in a different directory (which cannot happen >> > in that fscrypt case, but can happen in the general "directory hard links" >> > case), __d_unalias() takes that directory's ->i_rwsem for read too. >> > >> > So it looks like the parent's ->i_rwsem does indeed exclude moves of child >> > dentries, but only if it's taken for *write*. So I guess you can rely on that; >> > it's just a bit more subtle than it first appears. Though, some of your >> > explanation seems to assume that a read lock is sufficient ("In __lookup_slow, >> > either the parent inode is locked by the caller (lookup_slow) ..."), so maybe >> > there is still a problem. >> >> I think I'm missing something on your clarification. I see your point >> about __d_unalias, and I see in the case where alias->d_parent != >> dentry->d_parent we acquire the parent inode read lock: >> >> static int __d_unalias(struct inode *inode, >> struct dentry *dentry, struct dentry *alias) >> { >> ... >> m1 = &dentry->d_sb->s_vfs_rename_mutex; >> if (!inode_trylock_shared(alias->d_parent->d_inode)) >> goto out_err; >> } >> this __d_move Can do a dentry move and race with d_revalidate even >> though it has the parent read lock. >> >> > So it looks like the parent's ->i_rwsem does indeed exclude moves of child >> > dentries, but only if it's taken for *write*. So I guess you can rely on that; >> >> We can get away of it with acquiring the d_lock as you suggested, I >> think. But can you clarify the above? I wanna make sure I didn't miss >> anything. I am indeed relying only on the read lock here, as you can see. > > In my first email I thought that __d_move() can be called without the parent > inode's i_rwsem held at all. In my second email I realized that it is always > called with at least a read (shared) lock. I see. Thank you. We are on the same page now. I was confused by this part of your second comment: >> > I guess you can rely on that; it's just a bit more subtle than it >> > first appears. Though, some of your explanation seems to assume >> > that a read lock is sufficient ("In __lookup_slow, either the >> > parent inode is locked by the caller (lookup_slow) ..."), ...because I was then failing to see, after learning about the __d_move case, how I could rely on the inode read lock. But, as I now realize, __d_move is not called for negative dentries, so lookup_slow is indeed safe. > The question is what kind of parent i_rwsem lock is guaranteed to be held by the > caller of ->d_revalidate() when the name comparison is done. Based on the > above, it needs to be at least a write (exclusive) lock to exclude __d_move() > without taking d_lock. However, your analysis (in the commit message of "libfs: > Validate negative dentries in case-insensitive directories") only talks about > i_rwsem being "taken", without saying whether it's for read or write. One thing > you mentioned as taking i_rwsem is lookup_slow, but that only takes it for read. > That seems like a problem, as it makes your analysis not correct. My understanding and explanation was that a read lock should be enough at all times, despite the __d_move case. Any time d_revalidate is called for a (LOOKUP_CREATE | LOOKUP_RENAME_TARGET), it holds at least the read lock, preventing concurrent changes to d_name of negative dentries. I will review the places that touch ->d_name again and I will keep the patch as-is and update my explanation to include this case. -- Gabriel Krisman Bertazi