On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 11:41:44PM +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 05:45:38PM +0100, Linus Torvalds wrote: [...] > > > > Well, even on a PC, sometimes rdrand just isn't there. AMD has screwed > > it up a few times, and older Intel chips just don't have it. > > > > So I'd be inclined to either lower the limit regardless - > > ACK :) > > > and perhaps make the "user space asked for randomness much too > > early" be a big *warning* instead of being a basically fatal hung > > machine? > > Hmmm, regarding "randomness request much too early", how much is time > really a factor here? > > I tested leaving the machine even for 15+ minutes, and it still didn't > continue booting: the boot is practically blocked forever... > > Or is the thoery that hopefully once the machine is un-stuck, more > sources of entropy will be available? If that's the case, then > possibly (rate-limited): > > "urandom: process XX asked for YY bytes. CRNG not yet initialized" > ^ getrandom: .... (since urandom always succeeds, even if CRNG is not inited, and it already prints a very similar warning in that case anyway..) thanks, --darwi