Hello, I have this weird bug that has been plaguing me for a while where t_outstanding_credits will end up less than t_nr_buffers. I have done all sorts of things to try and catch when it happens but nothing seems to catch it. At some point I had thought that we were screwing up in journal_unmap_buffer. If a buffer is not on a transaction but is still a part of a checkpoint we will do a journal_file_buffer() onto the current running transaction's forget list. The thing is we can still have b_modified set since we only clear it on do_get_write_access/journal_get_create_access if it isn't a part of the transaction yet. So if we do the journal_file_buffer() before anybody calls do_get_write_access/journal_get_create_access we will short circuit these checks and b_modified will never be cleared and so when we do journal_dirty_metadata we won't account for the new buffer and it will end up inc'ing t_nr_buffers but not t_outstanding_credits. I had thought this was the problem before and put in a jh->b_modified = 0 in __dispose_buffer, but apparently the problem still happened. But that support person/customer were not entirely reliable so I'm back to thinking this is what happened and they just didn't run with my patch. The problem is I don't think we can call journal_unmap_buffer() on just a normal metadata block (that is with data=ordered), it only gets called by ext3_invalidatepage() which is only called on pages on the inodes address space, so not metadata. However, Jan had a patch to delay the free'ing of buffers for orphan reasons, with commit 86963918965eb8fe0c8ae009e7c1b4c630f533d5 which makes it seem like metadata can come through journal_unmap_buffer()? Does anybody know for sure one way or the other? And if you happen to have a theory on the actual problem itself I would _love_ to hear it :). Thanks, Josef -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html