On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 07:19:58AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 08:48:04AM -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:06:30AM -0700, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 08:36:48AM +0100, Lukas Czerner wrote: > > > > There was concern that FITRIM ioctl is not common enough to be included > > > > in core vfs ioctl, as Christoph Hellwig pointed out there's no real point > > > > in dispatching this out to a separate vector instead of just through > > > > ->ioctl. > > > > > > Um, are you and Josef working independently of each other? You don't > > > seem to be cc'ing each other on your patches, and you're basically doing > > > the same thing. > > > > > > > I guess they are the same thing in that we're both dealing with free'ing up > > space, but thats about where the similarities end. Lukas' work is in TRIM'ing > > already free'd space, mine is in creating free'd space. Plus I don't know > > anything nor wish to ever know anything about TRIM ;). Thanks, > > I guess I was assuming that, on receiving a FALLOC_FL_PUNCH_HOLE, a > filesystem that was TRIM-aware would pass that information down to the > block device that it's mounted on. I strongly feel that we shouldn't > have two interfaces to do essentially the same thing. But they aren't doing the same thing, his is discarding already free'd space, I'm enabling people to de-allocate space in the middle of files, they are two seperate things. Of course if the filesystem is TRIM aware the de-allocation would lead to a TRIM, but not if the filesystem isn't mounted with -o discard. Hole punching is useful independantly of the ability to do TRIM. Thanks, Josef -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ext4" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html