On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:44:27PM -0400, Daniel P. Smith wrote: > > On 5/12/23 06:47, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Thu, May 04, 2023 at 02:50:11PM +0000, Ross Philipson wrote: > > > +Secure Launch does not interoperate with KASLR. If possible, the MLE should be > > > +built with KASLR disabled:: > > > > Why does Secure Launch not interoperate with KASLR? > > > > Re: IOMMUs > > Until the IOMMU driver comes online, memory is protected by the PMRs regions > requested by the Preamble (pre-launch code) in accordance with Intel TXT > specifications and configured by the ACM. The KASLR randomizer will run > before the IOMMU driver is able to come online and ensure frames used by the > kernel are protected as well as frames that a driver may registered in a BAR > are not blocked. This seems unfortunate. Presumably we're not able to modify the PMRs at this point? This also seems like a potential issue for IOMMU config in general - the presumption is that the firmware should be configuring the IOMMU in such a way that DMA-capable devices can't attack the firmware while we're in the boot environment, and if KASLR is leaving a window there then it seems like we'd need to fix that? > > > +It is recommended that no other command line options should be set to override > > > +the defaults above. > > > > What happens if they are? Does doing so change the security posture of > > the system? If so, will the measurements be different in a way that > > demonstrates the system is in an insecure state? > > > > In an early version of the patch series this was enforced when turning on > Secure Launch, but concerns were raised over this approach and was asked to > allow the user to be able to shoot themselves in the foot. Overriding these > values could render either an insecure state and/or an unstable system. If we're in an insecure state, is that something that would show up in the form of different measurements?