On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 09:25:56AM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > Hello Chun,yi, > > On 5 August 2018 at 05:21, Lee, Chun-Yi <joeyli.kernel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > When secure boot is enabled, only signed EFI binary can access > > EFI boot service variable before ExitBootService. Which means that > > the EFI boot service variable is secure. > > > > No it, isn't, and this is a very dangerous assumption to make. > > 'Secure' means different things to different people. 'Secure boot' is > a misnomer, since it is too vague: it should be called 'authenticated > boot', and the catch is that authentication using public-key crypto > does not involve secrets at all. The UEFI variable store was not > designed with confidentiality in mind, and assuming [given the > reputation of EFI on the implementation side] that you can use it to > keep secrets is rather unwise imho. > I agreed with you. Especially I can't refute the part of EFI implementation, manufacturers can not be fully trusted. I am thinking a case... Some machines provide setup mode. If user earses all manufacturer's reloaded keys and only enrolls their own key. Which means that user fully controls the authentication environment. Then the EFI boot service varible can be trusted by the user. But this case is too strict for normal user. Thanks for your review and comments. I will think more about your suggestions. Joey Lee -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-efi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html