On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 12:44:37PM -0700, Martijn Coenen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Android became the primary user of CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER_FALLBACK. > > > > It would be good for us to hear from Android folks if their current use of > > request_firmware_into_buf() is designed in practice to *never* use the direct > > filesystem firmware loading interface, and always rely instead on the > > fallback mechanism. > > It's hard to answer this question for Android in general. As far as I > can tell the reasons we use CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER(_FALLBACK) > are: > 1) We have multiple different paths on our devices where firmware can > be located, and the direct loader only supports one custom path > 2) Most of those paths are not mounted by the time the corresponding > drivers are loaded, because pretty much all Android kernels today are > built without module support, and therefore drivers are loaded well > before the firmware partition is mounted > 3) I think we use _FALLBACK because doing this with uevents is just > the easiest thing to do; our init code has a firmware helper that > deals with this and searches the paths that we care about > > 2) will change at some point, because Android is moving towards a > model where device-specific peripheral drivers will be loaded as > modules, and since those modules would likely come from the same > partition as the firmware, it's possible that the direct load would > succeed (depending on whether the custom path is configured there or > not). But I don't think we can rely on the direct loader even in those > cases, unless we could configure it with multiple custom paths. > > I have no reason to believe request_firmware_into_buf() is special in > this regard; drivers that depend on it may have their corresponding > firmware in different locations, so just depending on the direct > loader would not be good enough. Thanks! This is very useful! This provides yet-another justification and use case to document for the fallback mechanism. I'll go and extend it. > > > > Is ptr below > > > > ret = request_firmware_into_buf(&seg_fw, fw_name, dev, > > ptr, phdr->p_filesz); > > > > Also part of the DMA buffer allocated earlier via: > > > > ret = qcom_scm_pas_init_image(pas_id, fw->data, fw->size); > > > > Android folks? > > I think the Qualcomm folks owning this (Andy, David, Bjorn, already > cc'd here) are better suited to answer that question. Andy, David, Bjorn? Luis -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-efi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html