On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:35:14PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote: > (Adding Colin and Ricardo) > > On Wed, 27 Apr, at 01:23:55PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > How is an end user supposed to see such a message and report it to the > > people that can fix it? They can't. So they report it in their > > distributions bug tracker and it either gets closed as "yeah, firmware > > sucks" or it sits there and rots in the hope that some day someone > > will do something. > > > > I understand where you're coming from in a pre-production, development > > environment but to be quite clear that is not the default environment > > Linux is run in most of the time. If this were a kernel warning, that > > could be fixed with a kernel patch, then maybe it would be worth it. > > It isn't though. > > If the error messages in the BGRT driver make it impossible for end > users to achieve a pretty boot experience then I agree, that is a > kernel bug. BGRT is an exception to the usual rule about complaining > loudly when we encounter firmware bugs simply because we're dealing > with UIs in this case. Fine. What's the highest priority message that will *not* cause splash screens to go into text mode? With the default boot argument of "quiet", pr_notice or pr_info should still remain hidden, right? So, could we make these pr_notice, rather than pr_debug? That way they'll at least show up in logs, even though they don't show up on the console. > That's not to say we should give up reporting these kinds of invalid > table issues to firmware developers altogether. There are other means > of doing it, and comprising the wants of many end users for the > benefit of few firmware developers (relatively) is just not sensible. > > Colin, Ricardo, I haven't checked recently, are there ACPI BGRT > validations tests in FWTS and LUV? Josh (Triplett), BITS would seem > like a very good place to include these tests since it already has a > bunch of ACPI table checks. BITS doesn't, but should; I've added it to the TODO list. - Josh Triplett -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-efi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html