En/na hermann pitton ha escrit: > Am Freitag, den 12.12.2008, 00:26 +0100 schrieb Jordi Molse: > >> En/na hermann pitton ha escrit: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am Donnerstag, den 11.12.2008, 09:05 +0100 schrieb Jordi Moles Blanco: >>> >>> >>>> En/na hermann pitton ha escrit: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am Donnerstag, den 11.12.2008, 02:02 +0100 schrieb Jordi Molse: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> En/na hermann pitton ha escrit: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2008, 20:45 +0100 schrieb Jordi Molse: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> En/na BOUWSMA Barry ha escrit: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jordi Moles Blanco wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And it doesn't matter if i run "scan -s 1" or "scan -s 2" or "scan -s >>>>>>>>>>>> 3", it will always scan from "switch 1" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Try with -s 0; I'm not sure if it is always the case, >>>>>>>>>>> but my unhacked `scan' uses 0-3 for DiSEqC positions >>>>>>>>>>> 1/4 to 4/4 -- I've hacked this to use the range of 1-4 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hi, thanks for anwsering. >>>>>>>>>> I've already tried that. >>>>>>>>>> remember, on switch 1 i've got astra 28.2E and on switch 2 i've got astra 19E >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I realized soon after sending my reply, that I had probably >>>>>>>>> confused myself about which inputs you had where, and my >>>>>>>>> advice, while partly correct, wouldn't help... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyway -- the important thing to remember, is that if your >>>>>>>>> `scan' works as I expect and your kernel modules work properly >>>>>>>>> and you have a 2/1 DiSEqC switch, that scan -s option... >>>>>>>>> 0 -- will tune to position 1/2; >>>>>>>>> 1 -- will tune to position 2/2; >>>>>>>>> 2 -- will cycle back and tune position 1/2; >>>>>>>>> 3 -- will again tune position 2/2 >>>>>>>>> 4 -- should spit a warning, I think (something does) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words -- if your system worked properly, `-s 1' >>>>>>>>> would give you 19E2 and `-s 2' would give you 28E; the >>>>>>>>> opposite of your switch labels. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't why but it looks like it doesn't know how to switch to "switch 2" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If I understand from your original post (re-reading it; >>>>>>>>> as soon as people start posting distribution or system >>>>>>>>> details my eyes sort of glaze over, while other people >>>>>>>>> will get an `aha!' moment that shall remain elusive to >>>>>>>>> me)... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> An older kernel version + modules worked; >>>>>>>>> an update of those modules broke DiSEqC; >>>>>>>>> your original kernel and modules didn't support your card. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would suggest -- keeping in mind that the dvb kernel >>>>>>>>> modules, which you should see with `lsmod', are where you >>>>>>>>> should find correct support, are probably in some package >>>>>>>>> unknown to me which you'd need to downgrade -- would be to >>>>>>>>> either revert, if possible, whatever contains those modules, >>>>>>>>> or jump ahead several kernel versions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you feel comfortable compiling and installing a newer >>>>>>>>> kernel (which is now around the 2.6.28 area), you could do >>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alternatively, and possibly better, would be to upgrade >>>>>>>>> only the linux-dvb kernel modules, building them against >>>>>>>>> your 2.6.24-era kernel source, which you may need to >>>>>>>>> download and install. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's simple to download and build the latest linux-dvb >>>>>>>>> modules even against a 2.6.24 kernel, and that should >>>>>>>>> make things work -- if not, then something's been broken >>>>>>>>> for a while, and some expert should be able to help you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> barryb ouwsma >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> linux-dvb mailing list >>>>>>>>> linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi again, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and thanks for the info. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately, diseqc seems broken, because no matter what i try >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -s 0, 1 , 2 ,3.... i get 28.2E signal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> however, 4 shows an error, as you said. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It used to work... so i'll try to get back or compile new linux-dvb >>>>>>>> module as you suggested. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'm really really newbie in this, i'm using kubuntu, so imagine.... >>>>>>>> hahahaha. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i don't even know how to get started, i barely install thing by "apt-get" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i'll try to find the way or post instead my problem in an ubuntu forum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks for the info. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> we need a report at least from 2.6.25 or current v4l-dvb from >>>>>>> linuxtv.org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prior to this patch >>>>>>> http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2007-June/018741.html >>>>>>> the Trio failed for 13 Volts and tone generation. >>>>>>> Don't have the hardware, but would expect BBC 1 London to work and BBC 1 >>>>>>> CI to fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This patch disabled some lnpb21 boards, which have that one connected in >>>>>>> such a way, that diseqc forwarding is disabled. They need it from the >>>>>>> tda10086. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was fixed by Hartmut with suggestions from Patrick to make it a >>>>>>> config option, if the tda10086 or the LNB chip in question is active. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All saa7134 DVB-S drivers have this option as diseqc = 0 in the config >>>>>>> currently and it should be right for the Trio too and the isl6421 should >>>>>>> forward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For looking at Ubuntu stuff, they downport a lot of things, because >>>>>>> always late with kernel releases, we need the exact sources to diff >>>>>>> against. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I still have only that single dish for initially helping Hartmut with >>>>>>> the isl6405 devel, but no rotors and switches yet and might be not of >>>>>>> much help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Hermann >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for the info. I agree that in ubuntu there seem always to be >>>>>> "unfinished" things and then rush many things into "stable" releases >>>>>> when "it's time". >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway.... >>>>>> >>>>>> i tried to upgrade the system from "hardy" to "intrepid", which meant a >>>>>> lot of ports upgraded, including kernel >>>>>> 2.6.27.9.13 >>>>>> >>>>>> that thing you say... >>>>>> >>>>>> "All saa7134 DVB-S drivers have this option as diseqc = 0 in the config >>>>>> >>>>>> currently and it should be right for the Trio too and the isl6421 should >>>>>> forward." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> is there any way i can try this? is there any config file i can edit to >>>>>> make that happen (to make diseqc work)? >>>>>> >>>>>> i'm not a experienced user ,but i've got the card and i'm really willing >>>>>> to help in any posible way. >>>>>> >>>>>> just let me know what i can do. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> on that 2.6.27 "BBC 1 London" _and_ "BBC 1 CI" or equivalent at least >>>>> should work on 28.2. It does for me on lnpb21 and isl6405. >>>>> >>>>> If something is still left for the switch then, either way connected, we >>>>> can start to scratch our heads or pull hair later, seems to me. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Hermann >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> well.. it doesn't work in my case.... double and triple checked, >>>> hehehe.... are you using the same card lifeview trio or another one with >>>> the same chip? >>>> >>>> would you mind telling me what linux system are you working with? i'm >>>> desperate for this to work, i will change to any distro that makes >>>> diseqc work. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>> as said, I have neither the Trio with isl6421 nor any DiSEqC switches in >>> use. >>> >>> But an Asus Tiger 3in1 with lnpb21 and several other cards with isl6405, >>> like Medion Quads, triple Creatix CTX948 and CTX929 DVB-S only. >>> >>> All this cards work for 13/18Volts and low/high band switching, means >>> all broadcasts are available except DVB-S2 stuff. >>> >>> The dual LNB isl6405 is totally identical to the isl6421 concerning the >>> programming of the first LNB and there have been reports for receiving >>> over 2000 services on 13.0E with the Trio cardbus. That should indicate >>> that at least all direct simple voltage and tone low/high switching >>> should work as well. >>> >>> If possible, try to circumvent the switch once and connect directly to a >>> dish. You should be able to receive low and high band stuff on 13 and 18 >>> Volts. >>> >>> For mixed old and new modules loaded, try "make rmmod" twice and "make >>> rminstall" on top of mercurial v4l-dvb. Check if any modules are left in >>> your kernel version media modules folder or just delete/backup it >>> completely. >>> >>> Run "make install" and "modprobe -v saa7134" assuming you have >>> "use_frontend=1" already in your module options. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Hermann >>> >>> >>> > > Hi, > > >>> >>> >> hey, >> >> thanks for the info. >> >> if i don't use diseqc, i can view every possible channels for each >> satellite, the problem appears only when it goes through diseqc. >> > > OK good. > > >> thanks for the tips on how fixing the system, but because i have no >> patiente and i'm a newbie (and have nothing of value in this machine), i >> ended up reinstalling everything, which takes less time for me. >> > > I'm not aware of any recent change and think it doesn't matter anyway, > as long you can change the source to come back to what seemed to be > working for you. > > >> i just sent a message to the list, saying if it's possible i've broken >> the card somehow. Please, have a look at it and tell me what you think. >> >> thanks. >> > > I really tried hard, until realized the isl6405 is behind the tda10086 > i2c bridge, but think it is close to impossible with what we have around > and at all, except high voltage occurs from outside without protection. > > I would try a cold boot next, say 40 seconds without any power > connected. The 13 and 18 Volts you can also easily measure at the > connector of the card. > > Good Luck, > > Hermann > > > > > oh, i hadn't thought of that... the computer has always been powered on all the time. As it is not running anything critical, i will try to plug everything out for the whole night and try again tomorrow. We'll see then if magic comes for breakfast, hahaha!!! thanks. _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
