On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Marcel Siegert <mws@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mauro Carvalho Chehab schrieb: >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Manu Abraham wrote: >> >>> A discussion between people who were already decided what to state >>> beforehand, i must say. >> >> Not true at all. >> >> Only 3 persons were Americans. Yet, 2 of them living at the oposite coast >> of US. So, even for they, a long trip (5 hours of time fuse). >> >> All the others there came from other continents: Europe, South America, >> Asia. On most cases, people took 2 days to arrive there, and 2 other days >> to return back home, for a 2,5 day meeting. >> >> Some of them even payed the expenses from their own pockets. > > Nice, if people can afford this "sparetime" and the money, or even they get > paid to attend ... > >> We all suffered a lot from Jet Leg effects, geting 5 or more hours of >> difference at the time fuse. >> >> We all now have a big list of pending work that accumulated due to the 1 >> week spent with the trips. >> >> People woudln't do at all such big efforts just to say: "me too", or to do >> some sort of political arrangement. If there was a previous decision, it >> would be a way easy to announce it via email. >> >> People went there because: >> - They want a better future for video input infrastructure; >> - They think that people make difference; >> - They want to solve pending things; >> - They believe that being together is the way for fixing social >> issues at the community. >> >> So, all people there put a lot of resources for what they believe >> it is the right way to do. Please respect. >> >> I understand that you are unhappy with the results of the vote, but it >> was a fair decision. > > from my POV i can absolutely not say it was a fair decision > > your mail - when i asked why multiproto doesn't get pulled - contained > some small statements > > ---snippets--- > > - I didn't have time yet to do carefully inspect the latest version of the > multiproto. I suspect that nobody did it yet, since I didn't see any technical > analysis of the current proposal. > > - I'll carefully review multiproto proposal during my trip, and compare it > with the Stoth's proposal. > > - As I've already explained, merging today or after Plumbers won't make any > practical difference. The upstream merge will only happen after 2.6.27 being > released, due to the next kernel window for merging patches. This is a major > change at API and claims for a carefully analysis. > > --snippets end--- > > now, lets get to the point: > you told me you are going to analyse the code and compare it > you told me its a important API change and must be carefully analysed > > you NEVER told me and all the other, that there will be a FINAL DECISION what > api will be merged or when. > > so, even if the S2Api decision might come out as right in the future, you > didn't act like a maintainer at all - for me it looks like a dictatorship. > > a kind and detailed information and then a vote/poll would have been a > real community decision. > > i do understand when devs/users like oliver take their decisions to leave the > project. > > > my 2ct > on a disgracing act of being a maintainer > what's the matter of merging both? please let us discuss that, the APIs shouldn't have a big impact on each other. Does it break someone's neck to have both? Markus _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
