On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Marcel Siegert <mws@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Mauro, > > Mauro Carvalho Chehab schrieb: >> Hi Marcel, >> >> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:22:59 +0200 >> Marcel Siegert <mws@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> hello mauro, >>> >>> Mauro Carvalho Chehab schrieb: >>>> Hello, Manu, >>>> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Manu Abraham wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Mauro, >>>>> >>>>> Please pull from http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto_api_merge/ >>>>> to merge the following Changesets from the multiproto tree. >>>> The need for supporting newer DTV protocols increases day by day, since when >>>> the first multiproto proposal started to be discussed, about two years ago. >>>> >>>> At the end of the last year, Steven send one email to the ML with a different >>>> API proposal. Yet, people decided to wait for your work to be done. People then >>>> pinged you, from time to time, asking about the completion of multiproto. All >>>> the times, your answer were that multiproto were not ready yet for production. >>>> >>> how is the actual state of his proposal? >> >> Steven can explain the details. Basically: it works, it is simple to >> understand and to work with, and it seems to be flexible enough to support all >> current needs and seems to be flexible enough to support future protocols. It is >> currently under review based on community feedback. >> >> I didn't have time yet to do carefully inspect the latest version of the >> multiproto. I suspect that nobody did it yet, since I didn't see any technical >> analysis of the current proposal. >> >> I'll carefully review multiproto proposal during my trip, and compare it >> with the Stoth's proposal. >> >>>> I'm aware that your solution seems to be more code-complete than Steven's >>>> proposal. >>>> But the recent activity on the mailing list regarding his idea (and its, >>>> so far, positive feedback) and the fact that I was anyway planning to >>>> have a discussion about the future of the DVB-API at the Linux Plumbers >>>> Conference 2008 are supporting me in my idea of post-poning such a pull to >>>> a point in time shortly after this event. >>> with whom? the linuxtv developers or with an attending audience? >> >> We'll have some sort of panel or speech for the attending audience of the Video input >> infrastructure miniconf. The API analysis will happen with the Linuxtv >> developers that will be there. >> >>> i havent been on the list and that active since the "nearly two years war" begun, >>> thus i am not the one to ack or nack in this pull request. >>> >>> what i did in the past was just watching what was happening and what was taking >>> progress - even if it is slow. >>> >>> users on the linuxtv list started to ask over and over again, when multiproto is >>> going to be merged. vdr started to support it in a kind of experiment. >>> >>> due to the lack of spare time and devices :) i do not actually know how productive >>> the vdr multiproto implementation is, but we should not start the whole discussions again. >>> >>> if we do not merge multiproto now, we will never do it, i am afraid. >>> >>> for the future of this project it is more than neccessary to get some progress. >>> >>> if there are no serious objections to multiproto, mauro, please pull/merge it >>> within the next few days. to wait until the end of september is time spending without >>> any sense. >> >> As I've already explained, merging today or after Plumbers won't make any >> practical difference. The upstream merge will only happen after 2.6.27 being >> released, due to the next kernel window for merging patches. This is a major >> change at API and claims for a carefully analysis. >> >> Cheers, >> Mauro >> > > as you told us, you wanted to have a look at manu's patchset during plumbers. > > any news on this topic? > would be interesting to see a summary of that 30 minutes talk about all digital standards :-) I noticed a link but it was broken all over.. Markus _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
