Hi Mauro, Mauro Carvalho Chehab schrieb: > Hi Marcel, > > On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:22:59 +0200 > Marcel Siegert <mws@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> hello mauro, >> >> Mauro Carvalho Chehab schrieb: >>> Hello, Manu, >>> >>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008, Manu Abraham wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Mauro, >>>> >>>> Please pull from http://jusst.de/hg/multiproto_api_merge/ >>>> to merge the following Changesets from the multiproto tree. >>> The need for supporting newer DTV protocols increases day by day, since when >>> the first multiproto proposal started to be discussed, about two years ago. >>> >>> At the end of the last year, Steven send one email to the ML with a different >>> API proposal. Yet, people decided to wait for your work to be done. People then >>> pinged you, from time to time, asking about the completion of multiproto. All >>> the times, your answer were that multiproto were not ready yet for production. >>> >> how is the actual state of his proposal? > > Steven can explain the details. Basically: it works, it is simple to > understand and to work with, and it seems to be flexible enough to support all > current needs and seems to be flexible enough to support future protocols. It is > currently under review based on community feedback. > > I didn't have time yet to do carefully inspect the latest version of the > multiproto. I suspect that nobody did it yet, since I didn't see any technical > analysis of the current proposal. > > I'll carefully review multiproto proposal during my trip, and compare it > with the Stoth's proposal. > >>> I'm aware that your solution seems to be more code-complete than Steven's >>> proposal. >>> But the recent activity on the mailing list regarding his idea (and its, >>> so far, positive feedback) and the fact that I was anyway planning to >>> have a discussion about the future of the DVB-API at the Linux Plumbers >>> Conference 2008 are supporting me in my idea of post-poning such a pull to >>> a point in time shortly after this event. >> with whom? the linuxtv developers or with an attending audience? > > We'll have some sort of panel or speech for the attending audience of the Video input > infrastructure miniconf. The API analysis will happen with the Linuxtv > developers that will be there. > >> i havent been on the list and that active since the "nearly two years war" begun, >> thus i am not the one to ack or nack in this pull request. >> >> what i did in the past was just watching what was happening and what was taking >> progress - even if it is slow. >> >> users on the linuxtv list started to ask over and over again, when multiproto is >> going to be merged. vdr started to support it in a kind of experiment. >> >> due to the lack of spare time and devices :) i do not actually know how productive >> the vdr multiproto implementation is, but we should not start the whole discussions again. >> >> if we do not merge multiproto now, we will never do it, i am afraid. >> >> for the future of this project it is more than neccessary to get some progress. >> >> if there are no serious objections to multiproto, mauro, please pull/merge it >> within the next few days. to wait until the end of september is time spending without >> any sense. > > As I've already explained, merging today or after Plumbers won't make any > practical difference. The upstream merge will only happen after 2.6.27 being > released, due to the next kernel window for merging patches. This is a major > change at API and claims for a carefully analysis. > > Cheers, > Mauro > as you told us, you wanted to have a look at manu's patchset during plumbers. any news on this topic? regards marcel _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb