В сообщении от 13 September 2008 09:28:10 Paul Chubb написал(а):> Hi,> now that I have your attention:-{)=>> I believe that this community has a real problem. There appears to be> little willingness to help and mentor newcomers. This will limit the> effectiveness of the community because it will hinder expansion of> people who are both willing and able to work on the code. Eventually> this issue will lead to the community dying simply because you have> people leaving but few joining.>> The card I was working on has been around for a while now. There have> been three attempts so far to get it working with Linux. Two in this> community and one against the mcentral.de tree. Both attempts in this> community have failed not because of a lack of willingness of the people> involved to do the hard yards but because of the inability of the> community to mentor and help newcomers.>> The third attempt by a Czech programmer succeeded, however it is> dependent on the mcentral.de tree and the author appears to have made no> attempt to get the patch into the tree. The original instructions to> produce a driver set are in Czech. However instructions in english for> 2.6.22 are available - ubuntu gutsy. I will soon be putting up> instructions for 2.6.24 - hardy. They may even work for later revisions> since the big issue was incompatible versioning.>> I understand from recent posts to this list that many in the community> are disturbed by the existence of mcentral.de. Well every person from> now on who wants to run the Leadtek Winfast DTV1800H will be using that> tree. Since the card is excellent value for what it is, there should be> lots of them. Not helping newcomers who are trying to add cards has led> and will lead to increased fragmentation.>> And before you say or think that we are all volunteers here, I am a> volunteer also. I have spent close to 3 weeks on this code and it is> very close to working. The biggest difference between working code in> the mcentral.de tree and the patch I was working on is the firmware that> is used.>> Finally you might consider that if few developers are prepared to work> on the v4l-dvb tree, then much of the fun will disappear because those> few will have to do everything.>> Cheers Paul There is a question of time and patience.Don't give up. -- Igor M. Liplianin _______________________________________________linux-dvb mailing listlinux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb