Hi, now that I have your attention:-{)= I believe that this community has a real problem. There appears to be little willingness to help and mentor newcomers. This will limit the effectiveness of the community because it will hinder expansion of people who are both willing and able to work on the code. Eventually this issue will lead to the community dying simply because you have people leaving but few joining. The card I was working on has been around for a while now. There have been three attempts so far to get it working with Linux. Two in this community and one against the mcentral.de tree. Both attempts in this community have failed not because of a lack of willingness of the people involved to do the hard yards but because of the inability of the community to mentor and help newcomers. The third attempt by a Czech programmer succeeded, however it is dependent on the mcentral.de tree and the author appears to have made no attempt to get the patch into the tree. The original instructions to produce a driver set are in Czech. However instructions in english for 2.6.22 are available - ubuntu gutsy. I will soon be putting up instructions for 2.6.24 - hardy. They may even work for later revisions since the big issue was incompatible versioning. I understand from recent posts to this list that many in the community are disturbed by the existence of mcentral.de. Well every person from now on who wants to run the Leadtek Winfast DTV1800H will be using that tree. Since the card is excellent value for what it is, there should be lots of them. Not helping newcomers who are trying to add cards has led and will lead to increased fragmentation. And before you say or think that we are all volunteers here, I am a volunteer also. I have spent close to 3 weeks on this code and it is very close to working. The biggest difference between working code in the mcentral.de tree and the patch I was working on is the firmware that is used. Finally you might consider that if few developers are prepared to work on the v4l-dvb tree, then much of the fun will disappear because those few will have to do everything. Cheers Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb