-------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:29:30 -0400 > Von: Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx> > An: linux-dvb <linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Betreff: DVB-S2 / Multiproto and future modulation support > Regarding the multiproto situation: > > A number of developers, maintainers and users are unhappy with the > multiproto situation, actually they've been unhappy for a considerable > amount of time. The linuxtv developer community (to some degree) is seen > as a joke and a bunch in-fighting people. Multiproto is a great > demonstration of this. [1] The multiproto project has gone too far, for > too long and no longer has any credibility in the eyes of many people. > > In response, a number developers have agreed that "enough is enough" and > "it's time to take a new direction", for these developers the technical, > political and personal cost of multiproto is too high. These developers > have decided to make an announcement. > > Mauro Chehab, Michael Krufky, Patrick Boettcher and myself are hereby > announcing that we no longer support multiproto and are forming a > smaller dedicated project group which is focusing on adding next > generation S2/ISDB-T/DVB-H/DVB-T2/DVB-SH support to the kernel through a > different and simpler API. > > Basic patches and demo code for this API is currently available here. > > http://www.steventoth.net/linux/s2 > > Does it even work? Yes > Is this new API complete? No > Is it perfect? No, we've already had feedback on structural and > namingspace changes that people would like to see. > Does it have bugs? Of course, we have a list of things we already know > we want to fix. > > but ... > > Is the new approach flexible? Yes, we're moving away from passing fixed > modulation structures into the kernel. > Can we add to it without breaking the future ABI when unforseen > modulations types occur? Yes > Does it preserve backwards compatibility? Yes > Importantly, is the overall direction correct? Yes > Does it impact existing frontend drivers? No. > What's the impact to dvb-core? Small. > What's the impact to application developers? None, unless an application > developer wants to support the new standards - binary compatibility! > > We want feedback and we want progress, we aim to achieve it. > > Importantly, this project group seeks your support. > > If you also feel frustrated by the multiproto situation and agree in > principle with this new approach, and the overall direction of the API > changes, then we welcome you and ask you to help us. > > Growing the list of supporting names by 100%, and allowing us to publish > your name on the public mailing list, would show the non-maintainer > development community that we recognize the problem and we're taking > steps to correct the problem. We want to make LinuxTV a perfect platform > for S2, ISDB-T and other advanced modulation types, without using the > multiproto patches. > > We're not asking you for technical help, although we'd like that :) , > we're just asking for your encouragement to move away from multiproto. > > If you feel that you want to support our movement then please help us by > acking this email. > > Regards - Steve, Mike, Patrick and Mauro. > > Acked-by: Patrick Boettcher <pb@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Michael Krufky <mkrufky@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Acked-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > * [1]. Rather than point out the issues with multiproto here, take a > look at the patches and/or read the comments on the mailing lists. > > _______________________________________________ > linux-dvb mailing list > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb Dear Steve, Michael, Patrick and Mauro, wow! Let me be the first to congratulate all of you on taking a bold, decisive step, which I am sure with your combined talents can be successful. I agree that it is time to move on from the multiproto era and work to create something to be proud of. Your alternative approach sounds intriguing. I will take some time to try and understand your patch before commenting any further. Best regards, Hans Acked-by: Hans Werner <hwerner4@xxxxxx> -- Release early, release often. Really, you should. Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
