Derk Dukker wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if there is any progress going on at the Hauppauge WinTV > CI usb. I heard that a guy named Luc is currently working on it. Luc do > you have any information about your progress or do you have a site where > I/we can track back the progress? I also noticed that the design of the > Hauppauge WinTV CI usb is quite the same as the Terratec Cinergy CI usb > which I bought. SmarDTV is the vendor of it (I opened the case and on > the print board stood SmarDTV). You can get the specification from the > website (see also earlier emails). > I think both the devices are the same, so when one driver is created it > will probably also works on the terratec cinergy ci. I don't know if the > specification from smarDTV is enough... > I have had contact with the dutch terratec support and asked them if > they can get me the specification to create a linux driver. He said that > he would check it out if it is possible for me to have the > specification, as soon as he knows more he will update me. But that > email responds was 1 or 2 weeks ago. I will email him again. As soon as > I got something I will post it here. I looked at the published spec and I it looks like it's for a newer device yet to hit the market. Trying to read it word for word will largely miss-represent what the WinTVCI device is, or its feature set. (Although I was at one point convinced this document was a super-set of the WinTVCI device). I also looked at the USB traffic on the current Hauppauge driver, with a cam inserted and decryption happening. The protocol appears pretty simple. I don't like their URB handling and their constant polling of the device regardless of whether it's being used or not, but that's likely an ugly feature of the windows implementation. I suspect a Linux driver could be written to do whatever it likes (mostly). - Steve > > regards, > > Derk > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > > Aidan Thornton wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Steven Toth <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx > <mailto:stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >> Aidan Thornton wrote: > >> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Steven Toth > <stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:stoth@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >> >> Recap: I said I'd notify the list when the spec was released > for the > >> >> Hauppauge CI device. > >> >> > >> >> Hello! > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.smardtv.com/index.php?page=dvbci&rubrique=specification > <http://www.smardtv.com/index.php?page=dvbci&rubrique=specification> > >> >> > >> >> Looks like SmartDTV have finally got something out of the > door. Put your > >> >> email address in their database and they'll email you the > PDF with full > >> >> command interface describing the protocol. > >> >> > >> >> Regards, > >> >> > >> >> - Steve > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I'm not sure how that's relevant. It seems to be the spec for > >> > something called CI+, intended to prevent unauthorised > systems from > >> > getting access to the decrypted stream coming out the CAM and > ensure > >> > only authorised host devices can use CAMs. I expect open source > >> > software will be able to make use of this stuff approximately > when > >> > hell freezes over. If this catches on, say hello to more copy > >> > protection and bye-bye to being able to use CAMs under Linux! > >> > >> A subset of the spec will work with the CI USB device, for > those that > >> are interested. > > > > Yeah, that's what I was wondering about - it doesn't seem to specify > > anything about CI USB devices, just the standard PC card based > > interface. (It even states that it doesn't deal with any interfaces > > other than that one). In what sense does the WinTV-CI implement > this - > > does it translate between standard CIs and some subset of this > > protocol done over USB? (I'm not even sure, at a glance, if this > makes > > sense.) > > I only glanced at the spec, but from what I'm told the command API is > implemented over USB. I suspect that Luc (the guy working on the Linux > driver) might be able to consolidate this command set, with the USB logs > he's been capturing. If not then something is clearly wrong. > > I'd been promised this document during December 2007 by the vendor and > said that I'd post it here to the community as soon as it was released. > > - Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-dvb mailing list > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx> > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > linux-dvb mailing list > linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
