Hi. Am Samstag, den 23.02.2008, 03:35 +0400 schrieb Manu Abraham: > CityK wrote: > > Manu Abraham wrote: > >> CityK wrote: ... > >> > >> For V4L to work with devices that way, it will need to copy more from > >> the other > >> subsystems such as Video, DVB and ALSA since V4L alone is not any > >> specific > >> "real" subsystem pertaining to something in real life. V4L just > >> originated as a > >> means to tune Analog TV cards under Linux, which later went in a > >> different tangent. > > > > While the move to multi-purpose, single IC devices is inevitable, the > > processing stages for the varying applications which the IC will perform > > (i.e. demodulation, encoding, ADC, etc) remain the same ... I don't see > > how V4L would be cut out of the block ... unless, of course, that means > > DVB means to expand its capabilities and/or absorbing some of those > > currently handled by V4L > > The in between stages will be masked out by larger stages which will wrap > around them, thereby you don't see those small basic controls. As you see > compared to the old days, you don't have that micro level controls anymore > these days. Those are getting phased out at a reasonable pace, with more > hardware doing those functionality of manual control. (features getting > packed in to make look like something different) > > For example, When there is so much integration at such a stage, you feel > silly including something gigantic for something too silly. In such a > case for > example of a TV output, you might not even need something that complex, > for such a small feature. (to cite as a crude example, maybe a bad example, > but i hope you get the idea) > Maybe some facts in between, instead of pure advertising. If you have that, sold per every single device painfully. http://search.ebay.de/ws/search/SaleSearch?sofocus=bs&satitle=dvb+ci&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC5&fbd=1&catref=C6&fscl=1&sorefinesearch=1&flt=9&from=R14&nojspr=y&pfid=0&fswc=1&few=&saprclo=&saprchi=&fss=1&saslop=1&sasl=b.e.t.t.e.r.s.h.o.p.p.i.n.g&fls=4%26floc%3D1&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D0&salic=77&saatc=77&sadis=200&fpos=&fsct=&sacur=0&sacqyop=ge&sacqy=&sabfmts=0&fobfmt=1&saobfmts=insif&ga10244=10425&saslt=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&sabdlo=&sabdhi=&saaff=afdefault&afan=&afmp=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&fcl=3&frpp=50 You still need something like this. http://cgi.ebay.de/Neu-CAM-CI-MODUL-AlphaCrypt-Light-mit-Software-1-12_W0QQitemZ370000642816QQihZ024QQcategoryZ77740QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And still have exactly nothing. If it stays like that, this will likely have some new owners soon, but teach me better. Cheers, Hermann _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
