free channels not working on mux with crypted channels

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Ok, this far i know.

1:
I asked on #kaffeine, when ever the problem is software based.
   - Wasn't.
2:
I also had a chat on #linuxtv:
- not problem with bad signal or cabling
I also compiled latest v4l from snapshot.
final statment: mailing list time.

Card is Hauppauge DVB-C ver 2.1 (wintv?) with saa7146_vv (latest snapshot)
So problem is what topic says, everything else works like a dream.

not working (free) channel:
reaby@reaby-desktop:~$ czap -c channels.conf MTV3
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 10 MTV3:418000000:INVERSION_AUTO:6900000:FEC_NONE:QAM_128:305:561:49
 10 MTV3: f 418000000, s 6900000, i 2, fec 0, qam 4, v 0x131, a 0x231
status 00 | signal 7f7f | snr 0000 | ber 001517c4 | unc 00000038 |
status 1f | signal f0f0 | snr ebeb | ber 001517c4 | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr eaea | ber 001517c4 | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr eaea | ber 000d7b72 | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK

encrypted channel (from same mux):
reaby@reaby-desktop:~$ czap -c channels.conf "Subtv Juniori"
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 18 Subtv
Juniori:418000000:INVERSION_AUTO:6900000:FEC_NONE:QAM_128:517:610:257
 18 Subtv Juniori: f 418000000, s 6900000, i 2, fec 0, qam 4, v 0x205, a
0x262
status 00 | signal 3e3e | snr 0000 | ber 0000037a | unc ffffffff |
status 1f | signal f7f7 | snr e3e3 | ber 0000037a | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr eaea | ber 0000037a | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr eaea | ber 000c0cce | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK

working channel:
reaby@reaby-desktop:~$ czap -c channels.conf "YLE TV1"
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
 21 YLE TV1:162000000:INVERSION_AUTO:6900000:FEC_NONE:QAM_128:512:650:17
 21 YLE TV1: f 162000000, s 6900000, i 2, fec 0, qam 4, v 0x200, a 0x28a
status 00 | signal 7878 | snr 0000 | ber 00054dbc | unc 0000007c |
status 1f | signal f3f3 | snr ebeb | ber 00054dbc | unc ffffffff |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr ecec | ber 00054dbc | unc 00000000 |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr ecec | ber 0006c49e | unc 00000000 |
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr ecec | ber 0006c49e | unc 00000000 |
FE_HAS_LOCK

stream example on problematic channel, recorded from kaffeine:
http://purkki.zapto.org/temp/%20Uutiset.m2t (patience it's only 512 adsl)

Those problematic channels works fine on hardware digibox on same appartment.


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