Re: Vivanco 21056/LR306 a.k.a. MSI DVB at Anywhere a.k.a LifeView Hybrid doesn't scan

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On Saturday 23 June 2007 09:19, hermann pitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Freitag, den 22.06.2007, 23:29 +0200 schrieb Werner Braun:
> > Am Freitag, 22. Juni 2007 00:43:44 schrieb hermann pitton:
> > > > > The card in this thread (msi@anywhere a/d) looks exactly like
> > > > > mine:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2006-September/012646.
> > > > >html
> > > > >
> > > > > Werner
> > > >
> > > > Sorry its late.
> > > > I am a bit confused: Is analog (via Tuner) partly working or not at
> > > > all? I can try to retrieve the baseband input configuration from
> > > > the eeprom dump.
> > > > I had a glance at the pictures you sent me.
> > > > Looks like the card supports FM radio - did you try it?
> > > > There is a chip between antenna input and the tuner chip (TDA8275A)
> > > > Can you find out its type? It is a unusual package for RF, can you
> > > > see whether there are traces going to the sucket or to the tuner?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > that should be the same RF input switcher we have on the Asus stuff
> > > and on the LifeView Trio. It is already addressed in analog mode for
> > > radio versus TV, but gpio21 usage can be reversed depending on the
> > > manufacturer. On the gpio22 in the comments I have some doubts.
> > >
> > > Seems not to be in the eeprom?
> >
> > Hartmut and Hermann,
> >
> > ok, I got out the manual and will try to describe the card as good as I
> > can.
> >
> > The card in question is a PCI DVB-T TV (analog) FM Tuner card named
> > Vivanco 21056 (the cardbus version is called 21057). The description
> > claims parallel processing of DVB and analog signal with picture in
> > picture resp. split-screen capacity.
>
> It is late here now and just for a first look.
>
> > It has a combined DVB/Analog connector, an FM connector and one further
> > connector for a combined AV cable with connectors for Composite,
> > S-Video, Audio L/R and IR Remote. The card doesn't have a second
> > Composite input, contrary to what TVTime suggests, there is a connector
> > on the card just next to the AV connector, which seems to provide these
> > interfaces, maybe for the front panel.
>
> The second Composite you should get over the S-Video Connector, either
> with a S-Video signal or with an S-Video to Composite adapter connected.
> (Not so important, but people wanting to connect two Composite sources
> don't have to plug connectors if this is present)
>
> > I haven't bothered trying FM under Linux, but under XP it works.
> > S-Video works under Linux and XP. As mentioned earlier, analog works
> > only for one frequency which is Channel 12 (here: FAB)
>
> That must be further investigated.
>
> > Now for the chips: the big three Philips are (a slash indicates a new
> > line)
> >
> > - SAA7131E / CE0957 / S37513 / T-N05101
> > - TDA10046A / SA6724-1  06 / ZSG 05111
> > - 8275AC1 / P1M48 / 01 / cPG05131
>
> With only one single hybrid tuner you can use analog and DVB-T
> simultaneously only, if the condition is given that analog comes from an
> external source like a VCR over Composite or S-Video. (needs packed
> formats, planar don't work!)

There might be a lot of very similar cards out there.  

I thought that Werner's card was a clone of mine, an MSITV@nywhere A/D, 
but mine does not support using both tuners at the same time.  It seems 
that a very similar card does.  

On this site;
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodfaqanswer&faq_no=1599&prod_no=623&maincat_no=132&cat2_no=261&cat3_no=
it says,
	TV@nywhere Duo: 
 	Same as the A/D, this card also support the most advance 
	PIP-picture in picture, and TWIN-one analog TV channel and 
	one digital TV channel side by side. Once you plug both 
	signals, you don't need to switch between 2 signals.

> > The one you mentioned (between antenna and 8275):
> > - 4231 / 0761 / 433
> > it doesn't seem to be directly connected to the 8275. Rather to the
> > 7131, but I can't tell that exactly. I am not an expert.
>
> It is the mentioned RF switch on current LifeView and Asus stuff.
>
> > Here's a few other chips
> > - top middle: LV4052 / AR245 / UnG05 / 12C
> > - a bit right, left of the TDA10046A: ATMEL 508 / 24C256N / ??U27 B
> > - right of the TDA10046A: RM18B / R133AL
> > - further down, just upper right to the 7131: ATMEL 516 / 24C02N / SU27
> > D - to the right, at the right edge: PIC16C505 / -041/SL / 050838A
>
> Though a separate firmware eeprom and that PIC is a i2c IR controller
> also found on the other LifeView cards. There are patches from Eddi for
> the Trio remote, but not in master yet.
>
> > - further down: LD1117A / L33ASA, further left (left of the 7131) there
> > is another one
> >
> > Hopefully this information is of any use to you.
>
> Thanks for your efforts.
>
> Greetings,
> Hermann
>
>
>
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