Uwe Bugla wrote: > Am Freitag, 18. Mai 2007 14:11 schrieb e9hack: >> Uwe Bugla wrote: >>> P. S.: Ich bin bescheiden: Eine öffentliche Entschuldigung gegenüber den >>> betroffenen Leuten, ein eleganter Schritt zurück, tut es voll und ganz. >>> Es muss nur ernst gemeint sein, und deutlich und unmissverständlich >>> rüberkommen, weiter nichts. >> This is a joke. The guy, which insults everybody, expects that everybody >> does apologize to him... >> >> - Hartmut > > No, it is not a joke at all, although I know that I am not the friendliest > person if such strange things happen to me and others. > Above that I did not insult everybody, but only especially two persons, maybe > three. So please read carefully the context, then state, not vice versa. > > The demand behind is to get rid of people who do nothing but play bad and > compromiseless policy. And if their ellbows have destroyed everything on the > human layer, then they just keep on by threatening the whole susbsystem as a > next step. So, on two layers, the human and the technical one, there will be > nothing but damage and chaos in the end, provoked by those persons. > > So if you, Hartmut, and / or others, keep on picking out what they want to > persevere and simply ignore the rest, then I offer to translate the whole > thing into English, just for the people watching this and really wanting to > comprehend the context, which takes work of course. > > So please do not take anything personal but just help to avoid superficial > statements like this one. > Who wants changes first must state what the truth is. > That cannot be done in a friendly way in all situations, as humans are humans, > and such not perfect at all. > > Uwe > > P. S.: I fundamentally changed my mind as far as Manu is concerned. > If I can change my mind, then others can also. > Ellbow mentalities and stubborn minds do seem to be hopeless in this case. > I never intended to ever insult Markus or others. > But there are behaviours in fact as far as the mentioned persons are > concerned, who do not offer you any kind of choice when you ask yourself how > to deal with them. In so far flames seem to be inevitable, unfortunately. > Its also a basic necessity to stop ellbow oriented stubborn people in order to > prevent damage from the whole community. To ensure this, one must go upright > instead of stating superficial remarks ripped out of a voluntary context. The only thing that these emails do is cause those people who actually are interested in developmental discussions to lose interest in reading the mailing lists. People are reading a thread, expecting all emails in that thread to be about a given discussion, and then they wind up on emails like these, causing them to believe that any productive discussion has ended. Uwe, I understand that you are trying to help. Everybody helps in their own way. On the contrary, all you've done is cause people like me to stop reading our email. If you _really_ want to help, then please just leave us all alone. -- Michael Krufky _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb
