Am Mittwoch, den 26.07.2006, 15:53 -0700 schrieb Trent Piepho: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Michael Krufky wrote: > > Trent Piepho wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Stone wrote: > > >> The checkin that broke the VDR compile is this one: > > >> > > >> changeset: 4343:303b58b4c499 > > >> parent: 4340:2d222384fff5 > > >> user: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> date: Sun Jul 23 06:31:19 2006 -0300 > > >> summary: Fix for compilation without V4L1 or V4L1_COMPAT > > >> > > >> It seems nobody has noticed there is a problem yet... > > > > > > Please try this patch and see if it fixes the problem for you. > > > > Why even provide such a patch? This will never me added to the kernel - > > All you are doing is prolonging the inevitable problem. We are much > > better off having the applications get fixed. > > I wasn't planing on trying to add that to the kernel. > > Telling someone to port VDR to to V4L2 is tantamount to telling them they > can't compile VDR anymore. Anyone who could do the port is easily capable > of turning the V4L1 header back on without any help from me. > > I'm not trying to argue for keeping V4L1 longer, but I think this change to > videodev.h is maybe not perfect. > > Why are kernel sources allowed to include videodev.h _at all_ when V4L1 > is off? > > Is it safe to disable V4L1 for userspace programs yet? Are the V4L2 > versions of the encoder and decoder APIs finished and has there been enough > time to port applications to them? > > What is the point of continuing to provide kernel support for the V4L1 API > when userspace programs are no longer allowed to use V4L1? Why have the > v4l1 compat module when user programs are not allowed to use it? Is the > goal to allow old V4L1_binaries to be used, but not allow old V4L1 sources > to compile? That's an odd choice, to provide more compatibility for > binaries and sources. Trent is right on that. I have been confused too previously, reporting "bugs" on failing v4l1 support for weeks without any response. I don't believe it was planned, since for that too much work was and is left, but sometimes was close to doubt. IIRC, a time-slot to drop v4l1-compat is not yet announced? Hermann _______________________________________________ linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb