Re: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Multi protocol support (stage #1)

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On Sat, May 27, 2006, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> Summary: Hierarchical BC mode and MIS mode are two totally
> seperate concepts and have nothing to do with each other.
> To receive the HP stream one needs a DVB-S demod, for
> the LP stream one needs a DVB-S2 demod which supports
> a "hierarchical LP stream" mode.
> 
> (I must admit, however, that I have difficulties to
> find the "hierarchical LP stream" mode in the
> STB0899 data sheet...)

There is one detail in EN 302 307 annex F that I haven't
paid attention to, because I didn't understand it's
significance:

"The PLHEADER sequence shall comprise 90 bits to indicate the LP code
rate being transmitted, as follow, shown octal
encoded, MSB (leftmost bit) transmitted first:"

I.e. the usual SOF, MODCOD, TYPE fields of PLHEADER are
replaced with a special sequence.


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The following applies to general DVB-S2, not just to BC mode:

Well, EN 302 307 does not explain how it is possible for
the receiver to decode the PLHEADER without knowing the
modulation first. However, TR 102 376 annex B.1 does:

"Independent from the modulation scheme of the LDPC coded block that
follows, these fields are modulated by pi/2-BPSK modulation...".

So if the frame sync and PL configuration (MODCODE etc.) is
transmitted with a different, but fixed modulation scheme,
it is clear that the receiver can indeed figure it out
by itself, and if modcod changes on a by-frame basis the receiver
can still track these changes and receive all frames.


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Back to BC mode:

EN 302 307 annex F show the PLHEADER is inserted before
passing the DVB-S2 signal to the hierarchical mapper.
TR 102 376 section 4.4.1 basically says the same.

So, it seems that for hierarchical BC mode PLHEADER does
not use pi/2-BPSK. Now, I don't know if and how the
receiver could figure out that hierarchical modulation
is used, however, once it knows that, it can get the
other transmission parameters from the PLHEADER.

While STB0899 does not seem to have a register for
enabling hieararchical BC mode, it still has a (read-only)
"low priority stream detection" bit in register TSULSTKM.)
Maybe this is a hint that it can detect hieararchical
BC mode by itself.


Johannes

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