Re: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Multi protocol support (stage #1)

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On Monday 22 May 2006 20:34, Manu Abraham wrote:
> Hello Andrew,
>
> Andrew de Quincey wrote:
> > On Monday 22 May 2006 14:21, Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 22, 2006, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> >>> Johannes Stezenbach wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>> I also say it again: I am deeply dissatisfied that none
> >>>> of the people you mentioned at the bottom of
> >>>> http://linuxtv.org/pipermail/linux-dvb/2006-May/010076.html
> >>>> seem to care enough to participate in the discussion.
> >>>> (Not to mention that app developers also don't
> >>>> seem to care -- after all these are the ones who'll have
> >>>> to deal with the new API.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe we should just put the API change off for now. :-(
> >>>
> >>> Well, as an application developer (VDR) I'd like to be able to
> >>> support DVB-S2, but I guess my knowledge about all this is too
> >>> limited to understand what this heated debate is all about.
> >>>
> >>> I always thought that DVB-S2 is just "DVB-S with a new modulation",
> >>
> >> IMHO the current use of DVB-S2 is just that, i.e. basically
> >> the difference between the satellite_delivery_descriptor
> >> as defined in EN 300 468 version 1.5.1 vs. 1.7.1.
> >>
> >> (So it's actually not just a new modulation but also
> >> the new roll-off factor.)
> >>
> >> Current use of DVB-S2 to my knowledge is Premiere HD on Astra 19.2E.
> >> If someone know other *current* uses of DVB-S2 please speak up.
> >
> > Astra 28.2E has S2 streams. In the UK, nearly all of Sky's HDTV streams
> > are S2 - so its pretty obvious where they're heading with that.
> >
> > I will check if the S2 descriptors are used in those NITs.
>
> we have 2 modes.
>
> (1) Normative Broadcast Mode (NBC-BS)
> (2) Backward Compatible Mode
>
> Only in Normative Broadcast Mode, we do have a S2 satellite delivery
> system descriptor.
>
> In the backwards compatible mode it is just DVB-S alone. There is only 1
> stream in this case

Would such a stream be decodable by a DVB-S demod? If so, the Sky streams 
_cannot_ be decoded by a DVB-S demod - already tried it :)

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